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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-29-2007, 08:11 AM Thread Starter
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difference between ace, shadow, sabre, etc.

ok I always see that theres the vt1100 but then it says ace, shadow, sabre, etc.

only reason I know i have a sabre is becasue thats what the dealer told me when I bought it.

whats the diffrence between these models?

im a college student always looking for cheap parts and good deals. basically what im wondering is if i can put those parts on my bike or not...and i dont mean like engine wise i mean as of seats or accesories on the bike.

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The biggest difference is the engines. 1100 ACE's have a single crankpin engine like a Harley. ACE Tourer's, Spirits and Sabres have the dual split crankpin engine. It runs much smoother and makes power over a wider range than an ACE engine, but doesn't make that "potato, potato" sound.

Other that that, it's just styling. Sabres have forward controls, almost solid wheels and tins over the front forks to emulate a Harley Fatboy.

Spirits have mid controls, spoke or mag wheels and a ducktail rear fender to emulate a Harley Superglide.

ACE Tourer's (the best bike Honda ever made) come with hard bags and a windshield to emulate a Harley Road King.
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How does this translate into the smaller bikes 750 and 600?

crankpin wise?

is there any more elaborate breakdown online of parts swapability?

ive wondered the same thing many times!

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so will the same seat that fits on an ace fit on a sabre 04

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OzarkJeep, I'm, not sure about the smaller bikes, but the easiest way to tell is to look at your cylinders. If the are perfectly inline from front to back, you have a single pin engine. If they're slightly offset, you have a dual pin.

Dupmaron, the easiest way to tell if the seats are interchangeable is to go to mustangs website and compare model numbers between the two bikes. My gut instinct says they will.
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duh that should have been obvious to me huh?

Thanks for the info!

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HA wow I can tell you from expierience that the seat for the 1100 ace WILL NOT fit your sabre I just made that mistake on ebay last week The seat for the ACE is much too big to fit on the sabre, wich I thought was wierd becuse I have sat on both and they didn't seem THAT different.

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Here's some comparisons of 1100s for 1999s -- you can change the years & models as you like:
ACE vs ACE Tourer
http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/en...cle2=132&go=Go
ACE vs Aero http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/en...cle2=131&go=Go
ACE vs Spirit http://www.powersportsnetwork.com/en...cle2=134&go=Go
Go to 2000+ to get the Sabre and lose the ACE.

As for parts, you can compare the online "microfiche" files for different models at Ron Ayers (http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/getdesc.cfm?man=ho), Bike Bandit (http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandi..._mfr~Honda.asp) or Honda Parts Direct (http://www.hondaparts-direct.com/fic...FicheSelection) for matching part numbers. (If you had provided more info, I could have "tuned" the links better.) Note that Ron Ayers & Honda Parts Direct use the same part numbers as Honda dealers but Bike Bandit uses different numbers (with the exact same sketches).

Art's 1999 Shadow 1100 ACE
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