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Old 07-18-2008, 01:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ok anyone know for sure the Horsepower of the 96 VT1100C2 ACE
I have seen it listed anywhere from 50 hp to 68 hp
now remember the ACE has the single pin crank,
the Spirit and Areo have the Dual pin, so they are not the same hp
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50 hp

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/hon...w_ace_1996.php

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Old 07-18-2008, 02:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yea it says 50 @ 4500 rpm for the 95 thru 2000 ACE ( done had this site )
also says

98 Areo 52.00 HP @ 4750 RPM
02 Sabre 61.65 HP @ 5500 RPM
03 Spirit 61.00 HP @ 5500 RPM

see my point different rpms

this site says 68 hp @ 5000 for the ACE
67 HP @ 5500 RPM for the 98 AREO and 98 Spirit and 00-07 Sabre
which makes a little more sense because they all 3 have the same motor a dual pin
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...t1100c2_95.htm


goolged and yahooed both and everything inbetween

anyone have a better reference than these 2 site ?
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It would be real nice if Honda just included HP and torque in the specs for each bike, instead of leaving it up to consumers to hunt around for it and have to second-guess all the results they find...

Oh yeah, but then that would make buyers think twice before buying a new 750 when some of the 500 and 600cc Shadows of the '80's had 30-40% more horsepower.

I guess I wouldn't list them, either.
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I read that the older Sabre 1100 was published to have 118hp.

My wee little 500cc Magna had about 10hp more than my new Sabre 1100, and I can feel the difference, even from memory.

Only two cylinders...

No replacement for displacement, bah...

It does not even sound good, yet...
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I read that the older Sabre 1100 was published to have 118hp.
That is correct but be aware that the older Honda Sabre's were V4 engines quite a bite different from the vtwin Shadow Sabre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Sabre_V4

Even the Honda Shadow Vtwins of the 1980's were more powerful than the later models. My 1984 Honda Shadow VT700 would outrun my current Shadow Spirit 1100.
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I read that the older Sabre 1100 was published to have 118hp.
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Even the Honda Shadow Vtwins of the 1980's were more powerful than the later models. My 1984 Honda Shadow VT700 would outrun my current Shadow Spirit 1100.
How or why would that be?

The "VT700C"... engine is a 694cc SOHC 3-Valve Liquid Cooled V-Twin with a six-speed, shaft drive transmission from 1984 to '87. New hydraulic valve adjusters and twin plug cylinder heads were used.

Then the question is, what needs to be done for fix Honda's faux pas?
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Then the question is, what needs to be done for fix Honda's faux pas?
Ride it and enjoy it, or trade bikes?
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Even the Honda Shadow Vtwins of the 1980's were more powerful than the later models. My 1984 Honda Shadow VT700 would outrun my current Shadow Spirit 1100.
How or why would that be?

The "VT700C"... engine is a 694cc SOHC 3-Valve Liquid Cooled V-Twin with a six-speed, shaft drive transmission from 1984 to '87. New hydraulic valve adjusters and twin plug cylinder heads were used.

Then the question is, what needs to be done for fix Honda's faux pas?
The VT700 was designed to run up to 8000 rpm and without looking at the specs, my guess is that it was an oversquare engine (bore larger than stroke) which "generally make their horsepower at higher rpms. The VT1100 I now own is undersquare (stroke is large than the bore) and this usually results in an engine that makes more torque at low rpm but does not run as high rpm, I believe the VT1100 peaks at around 6,000 rpm.

If you look at the specs of most of the 4 cylinder 600cc sportbikes around, you will find that they are almost always oversquare high revving engines that will out run practically any "cruiser" bike that may 2 or 3 times as large of displacement.

Many riders like the low revving engines on cruisers and the most relaxed riding style they offer.

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