Came home last night to find...

[xopeth]

Came home last night to find my legally parked motorcycle was moved from the street to the sidewalk ($115. ticket if ticketed parked there) a little ways down the block. Fork lock still locked, no damage in view but now the bike doesn't start. Parking is scarce on my block so it looks like a neighbor wanted my spot so helped themselves to it. Somebody please convince me to not go out there and slash every ******* tire on the cars immediately surrounding where my bike was parked. I live in Washington Heights, NYC and am one of the only English-speaking people around here, so communicating with neighbors is a lesson in idiocy.

[jpr1968]

First check your kill switch or that it isn't in gear. Second, don't slash tires, they may retaliate. What vehicle was in the spot you left your bike?

[adlowe]

Originally Posted by xopeth

Somebody please convince me to not go out there and slash every ******* tire on the cars immediately surrounding where my bike was parked.

Retaliate against guilty and innocent alike? Don't be ridiculous. If you can't find the one vehicle that's in your spot -- and BE SURE that's the guy(s)* who moved your bike -- then you'll be the vandal that requires police apprehension. Odds are, you will be seen and reported.

You need to find the people who are actually responsible and address the issue solely with them. (With the forked locked, it had to be more than one person, right?) Leave the innocent bystanders alone and go after the right people.

Originally Posted by jpr1968

First check your kill switch or that it isn't in gear.

And make sure both wires are still attached to the start button connection behind the left handgrip.

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* The guy(s) who moved your bike may have left. Just because there's a car in "your spot" doesn't mean the driver of that car is the one who moved your bike.

[proto]

As tempting as it is, I wouldn't slash any tires...sounds like a good way to start a "feud" with neighbors that will not end well for your ride.

Sounds like a dick move, and being a new rider myself, was wondering if there's any safety precautions I should take for my bike when parking in unfamiliar places to me?

[Theja1]

Yeah, if you don't have a safe secure place to park the bike, I wouldn't mess with anyone. It sucks.....doesn't mean I wouldn't question everyone around or maybe wait for the car owner that is parked where you were. Like adlowe said though, may not be the same one that moved your bike.

[CrazyDave]

Nope don't slash tires, but if you can do set up surveillance, moving a vehicle even in a situation like that is at the very least considered unauthorized use if not outright theft.. take what ever evidence you obtain to the cops and demand action

[Merlin02]

Originally Posted by CrazyDave

Nope don't slash tires, but if you can do set up surveillance, moving a vehicle even in a situation like that is at the very least considered unauthorized use if not outright theft.. take what ever evidence you obtain to the cops and demand action

What kind of action would you demand from the police? Technically, no laws were broken in this case. The two auto theft sections of the vehicle code are: 1. "Joyriding" and 2. "Grand Theft Auto". Joyriding is defined as "the temporary taking AND USE of a vehicle without the permission of the owner". Grand theft Auto is defined as "the taking of a vehicle without the permission of the owner, WITH the specific intent of PERMANANTLY depriving the owner of the vehicle". Neither of these two sections would apply in this case. Unfortunately, this incident wouldn't fall under the "vandalism" statutes either. Vandalism is defined as "the malicious damaging of the property belonging to another". My suggestion would be to just let it go.

[DaWadd]

Get a disc lock with a loud alarm. That should scare the crap out of the idiot.

[John Hopkins]

Originally Posted by Merlin02

What kind of action would you demand from the police? Technically, no laws were broken in this case. The two auto theft sections of the vehicle code are: 1. "Joyriding" and 2. "Grand Theft Auto". Joyriding is defined as "the temporary taking AND USE of a vehicle without the permission of the owner". Grand theft Auto is defined as "the taking of a vehicle without the permission of the owner, WITH the specific intent of PERMANANTLY depriving the owner of the vehicle". Neither of these two sections would apply in this case. Unfortunately, this incident wouldn't fall under the "vandalism" statutes either. Vandalism is defined as "the malicious damaging of the property belonging to another". My suggestion would be to just let it go.

As the bike will no longer start you could claim vandalism and endangering your cival liberties because of the fine you would incur for illegal parking..But it would take two pretty big men to move your bike sideways onto the sidewalk and you could get beaten up by these non English speaking heavies...You could move to a better neighborhood..

John.

[CrazyDave]

A person is guilty of grand larceny in the fourth degree when he steals property and when:



1. The value of the property exceeds one thousand dollars; or



2. The property consists of a public record, writing or instrument kept, filed or deposited according to law with or in the keeping of any public office or public servant; or



3. The property consists of secret scientific material; or



4. The property consists of a credit card or debit card; or



5. The property, regardless of its nature and value, is taken from the person of another; or



6. The property, regardless of its nature and value, is obtained by extortion; or



7. The property consists of one or more firearms, rifles or shotguns, as such terms are defined in section 265.00 of this chapter; or



8. The value of the property exceeds one hundred dollars and the property consists of a motor vehicle, as defined in section one hundred twenty-five of the vehicle and traffic law, other than a motorcycle, as defined in section one hundred twenty-three of such law; or



9. The property consists of a scroll, religious vestment, vessel or other item of property having a value of at least one hundred dollars kept for or used in connection with religious worship in any building or structure used as a place of religious worship by a religious corporation, as incorporated under the religious corporations law or the education law.





10. The property consists of an access device which the person intends to use unlawfully to obtain telephone service.



Grand larceny in the fourth degree is a class E felony.



moving a persons vehicle involves the act of physical possesion ( taking) and I am sure there ar numerous misdameanors that one can be sited for.. as stated before unauthorized taking comes to mind