Helmet noise level and police.

[Aced It]

Originally Posted by CrazyDave

So you love me? Sweet..come here lemme hug ya you big lug

No, I said I love and respect my father. You and I haven't even gone to dinner ... Jeez!

[PA Dave]

There's a lot of harsh words being thrown around.

Does anyone else see the irony of requesting the officer be charged for speeding by the person who was speeding in the first place?

The OP has a very good grasp of a number of defenses to get out of speeding tickets which I assume comes from experience. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I'd bet money that when the officer ran the plates he was treated to a list of some of those experiences, so he knew he was dealing with a player from minute one, and it steamed him. Not saying it's right, not saying it's wrong. When my boys would get into a fight growing up, I often told them that "even though it was wrong for him to hit you doesn't mean you didn't ask for it. Don't be surprised that you got hit."

My personal experience with the police over 36 years of driving has been that when you are polite and respectful and say sir like you mean it, you get a lot more breaks. I always try to make clear that I an not going to be a problem. Think about this...every officer knows someone, or of someone, who never came home to their wife and kids after a routine traffic stop turned very bad. The last time I was stopped for speeding, 72 in a 55 zone, I was asked why I thought that might be okay. I told the officer the truth...I wasn't paying attention and as soon as I saw his lights I realized what I was doing, and that I couldn't claim innocence...I did it. He went back to his cruiser, I'm certain to check my records which were clean, then came back and told me that the fine for 72 in a 55 was $189 and it would put three points on my license. Then he told "failure to obey a traffic control device...that would be the speed limit sign...which will cost $106 and carry no points." He explained that he did this because I didn't give him a BS reason why it was perfectly okay to go 72 in a 55 zone.

Lastly, a lot of factors go into determining speed limits, especially on municipal streets with traffic lights. Planners need to set the timing of lights so as to avoid gridlock, and traffic speed is a major part of that equation. In my city, if you settle in at 25 mph you can ride from one end of town to the other and hit every light green, while the guy starting out next to me speeds up to 35 between them and has to stop at every stinkin' one, and we both come out the other side of town at exactly the same time. Look up MUTCD on google for a glimpse into what kind of Rube Goldberg machine it takes to keep the roads moving. I will not dispute that municipalities often use traffic fines as a revenue stream, but it is definitely not the reason for speed limits.

I doubt I'll convince anyone, but that's my two cents.

Ommmmm. Ommmmm. Ommmmm. Now I feel better.

[1996shadow]

Originally Posted by CrazyDave

uh no.. I am a realist.and as such I keep my eyes open

I have no problem with that. I also believe that, if there is a law that I feel is wrong, you should work to change it, not just ignore it, thinking you can do whatever you want.

[CrazyDave]

Originally Posted by Aced It

No, I said I love and respect my father. You and I haven't even gone to dinner ... Jeez!

is that a request for a date? Lemme check my schedule

[CrazyDave]

Originally Posted by 1996shadow

I have no problem with that. I also believe that, if there is a law that I feel is wrong, you should work to change it, not just ignore it, thinking you can do whatever you want.

to which for the most part I concur but I am willing to bet I find one or two laws you ignore if I were to dig enough.. thing is most of us do, we all just have a different threshold as to which ones we will or will not dismiss out of hand.

[Aced It]

Originally Posted by CrazyDave

is that a request for a date? Lemme check my schedule

YOU have a schedule? ... Oh, and no. Sorry.

[Aced It]

Not to get off topic but ....





















































BEER!
Who's got it and why is it not here?
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This thread is officially fail. I'm bored.

[CrazyDave]

Originally Posted by Aced It

Which is exactly why you should wear a helmet ... to keep yer brain in tact for science to study! D^mmit Dave, we're losing out man!!!

[Pothole]

Few years back, I was working a temp job about 60 miles from home. It was winter time and pretty cold for North Florida. Day time temp was only about 34, soon as the sun started setting, temp was dropping fast. I was on my way home at the end of the day and got away from work late. I knew it was going to get real cold pretty quick so, I was booking it home. Looked in my mirror and saw the blue lights coming up fast so, I went ahead and pulled over. By the time the trooper got out of his "Blacked out Suburban" and walked up to me, I had my helmet off and license out. I was smiling when we made eye contact and told him he wasn't playing fair using an unmarked vehicle. He laughed and asked if I knew why he stopped me. I told him yes, cause I was hauling azz. He asked me why, told him I didn't want to freeze mine off before I got home. He ran my license, we chatted for a couple of minutes then he told me he would be on that stretch of road for a few weeks and to slow it down. No ticket, no attitude. I think its all in how you present yourself. I knew I was wrong and was ready to suffer the consequences.

[gat803]

Originally Posted by 1996shadow

First, if you are going to quote someone, be honest about it and use the whole statement. Also I never used the word "sh!t". Also he ask for opinions and that is what I gave.

Yea, whatever you say sweetheart.

Sh!t, crap. Same thing. I used the portion of your statement that was durogatory. It did and does stand on its own. I didn't change a word, and my quote didn't change the context.

We get it. If you can't beat the argument, resort to beating the author. There was a time on this forum when that wouldn't have been tolerated.

I say, fight every ticket you get. Chances are good that the rules were bent or broken to write you up, so you may as well bend those same rules to take a lesser/no hit.

Never consent to a search and never talk to the Police.