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Old 12-05-2012, 04:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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This is just one of those situations where somebody is upset about a ticket and it evolves into something more than it really should.
You might want it to be, but that doesn't make it so. Who are you to shut him down and say he's making it up? Some people here seem to be oblivious to the police abuses that go on regularly. This is nothing, I could share some stories...
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:50 PM   #32 (permalink)
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No, YOU read his post wrong. Nowhere did he make that exaggerated claim, only that "when the officer approached me he began yelling at me for passing him and kept it throughout the stop."

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Yikes, a lot of cranky people on this forum. After further clarification it looks like I read it RIGHT. And my use of the word screaming and my analogy was simply used to clarify my point that the original poster was stating the officer had a raised voice due to reasons other than hearing difficulties... but.. eh, whatever.

To me, there isn't much difference between yelling and screaming other than the context. You yell when you want to be heard, you scream when you can easily be heard but want to make a point. They both can be at the same volume.

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Old 12-05-2012, 05:19 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Life is too short to get your knickers in a twist about everything that happens to you..two sayings come to mind..

Don't sweat the small stuff..and You can't fight city hall..

If you persue this complaint you will find the judge will take the cops side because you don't get justice in court you get law..

The cop represents the law and the judge has to side with him or people will not take the law seriously..

I bet the cop has already had a dressing down as a result of your complaint and has had to grovel to his boss..that's as good as it is going to get..

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Old 12-05-2012, 05:19 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I manage IT for a city and we support several police departments so i have a fairly good understanding of how they work. As an individual you did what you could. You brought it to the attention of the Chief (usually you don't get that high in the chain). If it is a conscientious agency they will at least put it in the officer's file. Some departments care how officers act and others less so. I would just let it be as you did all you could.

As for those above who got defensive and started name calling ... better to keep your mouth shut and be perceived as ignorant rather than open your mouth and prove it.
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:24 PM   #35 (permalink)
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The officer is a public servant! If he can't conduct himself in a professional manner he should find other employment! The badge does not give him the right to disrespect the public. Had it been a more serious situation,like guns blazing,etc. that is a different story.

They need to screen LEO's better! It seems like every week here in Florida,they have a news story about an LEO that raped,beat or otherwise did something against the law! It's hard to respect a profession that acts that way! They have good and bad but need to weed out the bad ones!
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:28 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I was driving south on the highway, I came upon a group of cars and trucks clustered together that we're driving slower. I decided to pass the group on the right lane and get in front of them. I then see police lights come on. I pull over and that's when the officer approached me and began yelling at me. I believe this officer was purposely holding back the cars by slowing them down.

I also believe he saw me as a "biker who doesn't care about the law, so Ill show him who's boss, attitude." This because I stated if i could get a break, and his response was "you all always want a break!"

When I got home and saw the ticket he put done the wrong way I was traveling; he put down I was traveling north, then in parentheses he put (S). So, which way am I traveling, north or south, officer?
Are you allowed to do that..I ask because that is illegal over here, we drive on the left and we are not allowed to overtake on the left..they call it undertaking.. unless the overtaking lanes are turning right or in a traffic jam and we are moving with the normal traffic flow..

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I was driving south on the highway, I came upon a group of cars and trucks clustered together that we're driving slower. I decided to pass the group on the right lane and get in front of them. I then see police lights come on. I pull over and that's when the officer approached me and began yelling at me. I believe this officer was purposely holding back the cars by slowing them down.

I also believe he saw me as a "biker who doesn't care about the law, so Ill show him who's boss, attitude." This because I stated if i could get a break, and his response was "you all always want a break!"

When I got home and saw the ticket he put done the wrong way I was traveling; he put down I was traveling north, then in parentheses he put (S). So, which way am I traveling, north or south, officer?
In Texas, the left lane is for passing only, not the right lane so you are going to get a ticket.

As far as the LEO being a di-k, there's not much you can do about that as LEO's will protect their own. You filed a complaint so the next step would be hiring a lawyer which will probably cost you unecessary expenses for them to tell you there's not much more you can do.
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I've had a cop pull me over and lecture me before. I rolled through yield sign with my 12yo son on the back, and he thought it was a stop sign. (It should be a stop sign, but that's beside the point.) After I corrected him on what it was, he still vented a bit. I just told him I'd think about what he said. There was absolutely nothing else he could do. It was all I could do to not laugh out loud at him.

The police are people too, and I'm willing to give one a few minutes to tell me his piece.
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You might want it to be, but that doesn't make it so. Who are you to shut him down and say he's making it up? Some people here seem to be oblivious to the police abuses that go on regularly. This is nothing, I could share some stories...
Am I being called out? Well in any case, I don't want it to be anything more than it is which is an opinion toward which the OP opted for when he asked for "feedback". Did I say he made it up? ... It's a fact that when people tell stories of something negative that happened to them, sometimes the point gets exaggerated in favor of themselves. But I did say it already in that there's no way for any of us to review exactly what happened here other than his story. The officer could have been a real ^ss yes, but it could also have been taken out of context by the OP ... yes? Is that possible? I have offered a counter viewpoint instead of just taking his side. Why? Because there is always two sides to every story AND I was asked.

And who am I? I am an avid member of this board, a motorcycle enthusiast, a person who sees good in others when they can't speak for themselves and somebody with an opinion ... just like you. I am not oblivious to police abuses, but the fact is society is subjected to more of the negative than the positive. I have had good fortune to see predominantly the good side in working with law enforcement officers in the past.

If you have experienced a bad side of law enforcement, there's nothing I can do about that. I know it can put a bad taste in your mouth.

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The officer is a public servant! If he can't conduct himself in a professional manner he should find other employment! The badge does not give him the right to disrespect the public. Had it been a more serious situation,like guns blazing,etc. that is a different story.

They need to screen LEO's better! It seems like every week here in Florida,they have a news story about an LEO that raped,beat or otherwise did something against the law! It's hard to respect a profession that acts that way! They have good and bad but need to weed out the bad ones!
The public needs to be able to trust all LEO's!
There is some truth to your statements. However in response to the later part of your reply, lest we forget that anyone who rides a motorcycle can fall under the same negative view in the eyes of the public.


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