Helmet noise level and police.

[bob_suruncle]

I cant believe I am responding to this thread... as kace said its silly.... but I was bored and read all the way through. I didn't notice anywhere that it was mentioned how fast the OP was going when he passed the cruiser.... for example if the speed limit was 55 and you were doing 85 with pipes bellowing then I can see why the cop might get up in your grill.... if you passed at 60 or 65 you were still speeding and deserve a ticket just like the next guy and the guy before you. speeding is illegal regardless of the cops response.


As for this poster:

Originally Posted by ejsaenz

FIGHT the ticket!! Who cares if you did speed. Traffic tickets are just a revenue source for the municipality.

So many people are willing to give up their rights... what a shame.

I care if he was speeding.... its not your right to speed and limits are set and enforced to keep you safe and try to keep everyone driving within a reasonable limit. If you speed and you get caught expect consequences. Bunch of dumb asses out there in the world who are all about their "rights" and not willing to take responsibility for their own actions.


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[CrazyDave]

Originally Posted by bob_suruncle

I cant believe I am responding to this thread... as kace said its silly.... but I was bored and read all the way through. I didn't notice anywhere that it was mentioned how fast the OP was going when he passed the cruiser.... for example if the speed limit was 55 and you were doing 85 with pipes bellowing then I can see why the cop might get up in your grill.... if you passed at 60 or 65 you were still speeding and deserve a ticket just like the next guy and the guy before you. speeding is illegal regardless of the cops response.


As for this poster:



I care if he was speeding.... its not your right to speed and limits are set and enforced to keep you safe and try to keep everyone driving within a reasonable limit. If you speed and you get caught expect consequences. Bunch of dumb asses out there in the world who are all about their "rights" and not willing to take responsibility for their own actions.


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While I am happy you ohmned, the only reason for most speed limits is to slow traffic to such a frustrating pace that someone will eventually break it just to be able to travel at a reasonable rate.. and get busted.. which then leads to more revenue.. always follow the money because they don't give a damn about your safety.. never have, never will.

[jpr1968]

Originally Posted by CrazyDave

While I am happy you ohmned, the only reason for most speed limits is to slow traffic to such a frustrating pace that someone will eventually break it just to be able to travel at a reasonable rate.. and get busted.. which then leads to more revenue.. always follow the money because they don't give a damn about your safety.. never have, never will.

now, that's and interesting theory.

[kacealraid]

Speed limits in residential areas? Understandable. Speed limits on long stretches of highway?

Eehhhhhhh....

[Aced It]

Originally Posted by ejsaenz

... Who cares if you did speed. Traffic tickets are just a revenue source for the municipality. ...
So many people are willing to give up their rights... what a shame. ...

Gotta disagree ... I care.

If the drunk driver that nearly took my wife's life by speeding in excess of 65mph in a 25 zone had been stopped prior, she would still have her right eye, no scars, no migraines and no mental trauma continued into today. Granted he was drunk, still not an excuse; but it relates to speeding in that he had history of speeding infractions and should have had his license revoked long before.

Traffic tickets are NOT just a source of revenue; they are in place to help ensure law abiding citizens are safe on the roads. Yes, one has a right to fight the law, but if one is aware that one broke the law I wouldn't call that giving up any rights, that just makes one both a liar and cheat ... that's more of a shame to me.

I was always taught to own up to my own mistakes, make good and move on.

Originally Posted by CrazyDave

... the only reason for most speed limits is to slow traffic to such a frustrating pace that someone will eventually break it just to be able to travel at a reasonable rate.. and get busted.. which then leads to more revenue.. always follow the money because they don't give a damn about your safety.. never have, never will.

Sorry, disagree on those points Dave. When one obtains a drivers license, they are required to accept the rules of the road and obey the traffic laws. Driving is not a persons right - it is a privilege. One's rights can be defended; privileges can be taken away.

Now open up and say "Ah" Dave, looks like you're in need of some of that medicine you've been handing out.
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[O'Larry]

Thanks Bud (Aced It), the it is for sure. You get caught breaking the law, you pay up and shut up! This "Touchy feely" stuff is Bull $hit!

[CrazyDave]

Originally Posted by Aced It

Gotta disagree ... I care.

If the drunk driver that nearly took my wife's life by speeding in excess of 65mph in a 25 zone had been stopped prior, she would still have her right eye, no scars, no migraines and no mental trauma continued into today. Granted he was drunk, still not an excuse; but it relates to speeding in that he had history of speeding infractions and should have had his license revoked long before.

Traffic tickets are NOT just a source of revenue; they are in place to help ensure law abiding citizens are safe on the roads. Yes, one has a right to fight the law, but if one is aware that one broke the law I wouldn't call that giving up any rights, that just makes one both a liar and cheat ... that's more of a shame to me.

I was always taught to own up to my own mistakes, make good and move on.




Sorry, disagree on those points Dave. When one obtains a drivers license, they are required to accept the rules of the road and obey the traffic laws. Driving is not a persons right - it is a privilege. One's rights can be defended; privileges can be taken away.

Now open up and say "Ah" Dave, looks like you're in need of some of that medicine you've been handing out.
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Nah, I am not stressed over it

However you are completely wrong on this. Traffic rules ar primarily a revenue source, secondarily they are for control of the citizenship.

[jpr1968]

Originally Posted by CrazyDave

Nah, I am not stressed over it

However you are completely wrong on this. Traffic rules ar primarily a revenue source, secondarily they are for control of the citizenship.

And how did you come to this conclusion? Maybe we shoudl just go back to wild west days and let everybody drive any way they want.

[CrazyDave]

Originally Posted by jpr1968

And how did you come to this conclusion? Maybe we shoudl just go back to wild west days and let everybody drive any way they want.

Ever been on a road that was in no way shape or form designed for the 50 mph that the speed limit it is set for? Ever been on a road where the posted limit of 40 was ludicrously slow? Even in the OPs example of his experience we see a cop, on a major highway purposely impeding traffic flow..why? To piss someone off enough that they would try to find away around slow moving traffic.. nothing else.

Ever had to touch ( or even slam in some cases ) your brakes upon coming into such a situation.. one minute traffic is moving along fine, the next every thing comes to a an abrupt and dangerous standstill simply because there is a cop going a rock stead( insert speed limit) in the left lane.

Yes I know we all would like to think our government cares, is doing things for our good, but quite frankly we all also know in our hearts that is utter BS.

[Aced It]

Originally Posted by CrazyDave

Nah, I am not stressed over it

However you are completely wrong on this. Traffic rules ar primarily a revenue source, secondarily they are for control of the citizenship.

Dave, Dave, Dave .... I realize that you may share the same ideology as my father in that the government is solely here to screw you, but ...

It did not take cars long to clog the streets and cities to begin setting speed limits, installing traffic lights, designing one-way streets and adding parking meters. Yet, it did take drivers longer to start obeying these laws. The book "Rules of the Road" written by William P. Eno in 1903 introduced many road regulations, such as the need for slow traffic to remain to the right and cars to pass only on the left, as well as one-way streets, crosswalks for pedestrians, stop signs and safety islands. 1903! In that same book, Eno, considered to be "the father of traffic safety", believed that stoplights would never work and police would always be necessary at intersections. Ironically, he had his chauffeur drive him around.

Traffic laws are set up first and foremost to protect society from running a muck, people setting their own rules and generally creating mass havoc causing serious safety issues for everyone. Now Dave, there is no doubt that in that same development that the government also gets their greedy little hands on your cash. Fines for traffic infractions are set up as a determent from breaking a said law. Paying a fine for breaking said law is the punishment.

Traffic laws now make up a major part of most state regulations. Their main purpose is to improve unsafe driving and to provide education to bad drivers. Revenue is the secondary and thankfully a part of it because everybody knows them laws is gettin' broke and we need our roads paved for our scoot's sake.

You've got it backwards.