Helmet noise level and police.

[txridr]

I need your professional opinion on the following:
I was riding on the highway and got pulled over by a police officer in an stealth Tahoe and when the officer approached me he began yelling at me for passing him and kept it throughout the stop. He finally stated I was speeding.

I filed a citizen complaint against the officer, and after a few weeks of badgering the Chief of Police on the findings he concluded that due to the traffic passing by and me failing to remove my helmet (I was never asked to remove my helmet) the officer had to raise his voice.

Feedback is appreciated.

[Shadow ghost]

Uhm. If I understand correctly it sounds like you want to see if the cop was justified yelling at you? No. But they will try to find some loop hole to justify it even if it is BS. If helmets reduced noise level so much so that normal conversation is impossible then they wouldn't be legal. Like wearing ear phones.


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[93gc40]

Get your ears checked.... If I can hear with a helmet on, at the track. You should be able to hear a cop on the street, unless you are not listening. So IMO you filed a complaint, because you were being a desrespectful A-hole. Not saying the Cop was right, but then neither is leaving the helmet on while dealing with Law enforcement.

Were you speeding when you passed the cop???? You got loud pipes? If so pay the F-ing ticket and shut-up. Next time you have to deal with LEO, be nice and say yes, sir and no, sir and thank you. You might not even get that ticket.

[jgarib]

Originally Posted by 93gc40

Get your ears checked.... If I can hear with a helmet on, at the track. You should be able to hear a cop on the street, unless you are not listening. So IMO you filed a complaint, because you were being a desrespectful A-hole. Not saying the Cop was right, but then neither is leaving the helmet on while dealing with Law enforcement.

Were you speeding when you passed the cop???? You got loud pipes? If so pay the F-ing ticket and shut-up. Next time you have to deal with LEO, be nice and say yes, sir and no, sir and thank you. You might not even get that ticket.

Wow, I think you read his post wrong. He had no problem hearing the cop. He claims the cop was screaming at him (like a parent does to a child) and he filed a complaint based on this. The response was a BS response about road noise and a helmet being worn to justify the screaming.

I didn't see the guy complain about getting a ticket. He may have been speeding or driving dangerously... it's beside the point. The cop has a duty to ticket people who break the law, but they do not have the right to yell at someone abusively any more than they have the right to outright hit someone because they broke the law.

I know many cops. Most are great people, but a few take their personal issues and project them on others while on duty. It's very unprofessional.

txridr: unfortunately, there is nothing you can do about this. While it sucks, I would let it go. It's not worth the time and energy to get something done about it. In the long run, the screaming hopefully did no harm--the guy was probably just having a bad day. **** happens, just be thankful it was an angry cop full of "**** happens" that happened to you and not the idiot grandma left turn in front of you flavor.

[kacealraid]

I wouldn't pursue the issue any further. He found a loophole and there's no real way you can prove otherwise on the situation. It's just not worth the trouble. If he's as big a jerk as you say, someone else will get him in a situation he can't loophole his way out of.

[MikeB]

Feedback? OK, you are either nuts or an annoying troublemaker for making a fuss over absolutely nothing. The cop raises his voice to be heard while you are wearing a helmet and sitting next to a busy highway? What the hell did you expect him to do, whisper inaudible sweet nothings to you?

And even if you were in a quiet room and he yelled at you, so what? Is your itty-bitty feelings hurt? Oh, poor baby. Join the Army and find out what it means to be yelled at.

But maybe I shouldn't be so harsh. You'll probably file a complaint with the moderators now: "Some guy was being mean to me. I'm going to go to my room and pout if you don't do something about it."

[lazyboy]

He was probably having a bad day! No excuse for yelling at you unless you were being a smart a$$!
What are you hoping to get out of it? A letter of apology is about the max!
They won't admit they're wrong unless you have proof,like a recording,video,eye witness,etc.

[Officer friendly]

You can check and see if that police Dept has Cam corders in all their police cars ( My dept. does) everytime we engage out lights and sirens that starts the recorder, and we wear a hidden mic. so everything we say & do is being recorded,,along with what you say & do...I use a LOUD CLEAR voice on my stops due to traffic buzzing by...never rude.... did you get a ticket?? with a fine $$$ maybe $150.00?? or did you get a LOUD verbal warning (Free no fine)
Not all cops are rude jerks ,,,,but some get their egos bent when ya pass them lol

[93gc40]

Originally Posted by jgarib

Wow, I think you read his post wrong. He had no problem hearing the cop. He claims the cop was screaming at him (like a parent does to a child) and he filed a complaint based on this. The response was a BS response about road noise and a helmet being worn to justify the screaming. I didn't see the guy complain about getting a ticket. He may have been speeding or driving dangerously... it's beside the point. The cop has a duty to ticket people who break the law, but they do not have the right to yell at someone abusively any more than they have the right to outright hit someone because they broke the law.

I know many cops. Most are great people, but a few take their personal issues and project them on others while on duty. It's very unprofessional.

txridr: unfortunately, there is nothing you can do about this. While it sucks, I would let it go. It's not worth the time and energy to get something done about it. In the long run, the screaming hopefully did no harm--the guy was probably just having a bad day. **** happens, just be thankful it was an angry cop full of "**** happens" that happened to you and not the idiot grandma left turn in front of you flavor.

I got the posters point. IMO, it's the same as the riders always complaining about cagers that cut them off and such.

Mike and Friendly, seem to see it like I did.

Originally Posted by MikeB

Feedback? OK, you are either nuts or an annoying troublemaker for making a fuss over absolutely nothing. The cop raises his voice to be heard while you are wearing a helmet and sitting next to a busy highway? What the hell did you expect him to do, whisper inaudible sweet nothings to you?

And even if you were in a quiet room and he yelled at you, so what? Is your itty-bitty feelings hurt? Oh, poor baby. Join the Army and find out what it means to be yelled at.

But maybe I shouldn't be so harsh. You'll probably file a complaint with the moderators now: "Some guy was being mean to me. I'm going to go to my room and pout if you don't do something about it."

The Wusification of America, at work.

Originally Posted by Officer friendly

You can check and see if that police Dept has Cam corders in all their police cars ( My dept. does) everytime we engage out lights and sirens that starts the recorder, and we wear a hidden mic. so everything we say & do is being recorded,,along with what you say & do...I use a LOUD CLEAR voice on my stops due to traffic buzzing by...never rude.... did you get a ticket?? with a fine $$$ maybe $150.00?? or did you get a LOUD verbal warning (Free no fine)
Not all cops are rude jerks ,,,,but some get their egos bent when ya pass them lol

Yeah, I pass cops, all the time, doing speed limit of course. Do it in the lifted and muddy Jeep, they pay me no mind. Do it on the loud V-twin, they pull me over every time. Loud pipes might save lives and get you noticed. Problem is that they also make it sound like you are going fatser than you are and that you get noticed.

[adlowe]

Originally Posted by 93gc40

Problem is that they also make it sound like you are going fatser than you are and that you get noticed.

I hate it when people think I'm going fatser. I've been working so hard at being skinnier...