Bad news Two killed on bike

[Stevehat]

This is in my back yard. Palm Beach County and southward are known for tough traffic conditions for motorcyclists. Sad to hear about another motorcycle accident. Had one here in Palm Beach county last week but didn't hear the details.

Steve

[Christopher]

I can understand to some degree that posting these news stories about bikers being killed can be a bummer. But I for one read all of them.

Being a pilot I read every news article about plane crashes that I can get my hands on. Not because I enjoy reading about death, but because I am constantly trying to learn and improve my skill sets.

My buddies, who are all Airline pilots do the same thing. We are always sending off pictures, videos and news articles of crashes, etc. to each other to read. Then we typically discuss what happened and how to prevent it from occurring to you.

Like motorcycles, Flying is dangerous and hundreds of people die piloting planes every year. But if I learn one thing from one of these news articles that could prevent me from crashing and killing myself and passengers, then it served its purpose.

No forum can function for long when thread topics are regulated under a narrow band of thought. My personal feeling is skip the threads you don't care to read and participate in the threads you do find interesting. 10 people may find a certain topic useless, but 20 others may learn something from it. If you yourself find a post or thread boring, skip over it and move on to another thread. But to control posts and content simply to satisfy a few peoples tastes is uncalled for and can harm a forum such as this.

The option for everyone on every thread is always read - participate or ignore. Leave censoring to the Chinese government.

Just my humble opinion.

Chris

[kolonial]

I am a new rider. Posts like this are particularly useful when they include some wisdom on how I can prevent this from happening to me. (Sounds selfish, but there it is.) Not even sure what went wrong here.

[gui_tarzan]

My condolences to the family of the fallen riders. I also see that not much has changed as far as bickering goes during my several month absence.

[harryco]

I posted the link to the story because I thought that the members here had enough common sence to look at it if they chose to do so.
I don't need to tell anyone why they should read it, and did not do that.

Here is a quote from of a reply to my first post. :-
"But in addition to posting a link to the news story, tell us why we should read it. Tell us about the circumstances. Tell us about the rider. Tell us your opinion. Give us something to discuss. "

'Sparc', like anyone else, you are allowed to chose whether you want to read something about how a couple died in a motorcycle accident. ( Most of us in this group ride motorcycles as a hobby, and any info that is useful or possibly lifesaving is important to many of us. The info that is in the link falls into that category.)
It seems like you find reading somewhat of a chore, and want everything summarised so that you can understand it without having to digest the information for yourself. I had kids that used to behave like that in kindergarden, but at least they grew out of it fairly early in life.

Good luck, and go find someone else to read to you.

Harry.

[Sparc]

Originally Posted by harryco

'Sparc',
It seems like you find reading somewhat of a chore, and want everything summarised so that you can understand it without having to digest the information for yourself. I had kids that used to behave like that in kindergarten, but at least they grew out of it fairly early in life.

Good luck, and go find someone else to read to you.

Harry.

Quite the contrary. I read a lot. I'm quite good at it. There is so much stuff I want to read/learn I can't consume it all. I hope I never grow out of it.

You guys are reading way too much into this. All I did was point out there was a better, more polite and more informative way to post links to news articles. In that process I asked you to truly consider if the post was actually newsworthy enough that all of HSN should be aware of it and to tell us why.

How can that offend anyone? It's constructive criticism. That's all.

Some of you may have noticed there is a lot of junk on the Internet. Some have you may have noticed there are a lot of idiots on the Internet. Some times, those idiots post links to the junk. All the above method does is help show you're not an idiot and the link isn't junk. It helps everybody.

Sparc

[Phil]

Here's my take on this situation.........I'm not saying a member should or should not post a link in the manner this one was posted, but I would tend to lean toward sparks way of thinking!

As for me, unless the accident had to do with a “certain forum member” or friend, family or other relationship to a forum member, I probably wouldn't post a link to a fatal accident. One exception would be if I was trying to make a specific point about a safety issue like wearing a helmet, speeding or drinking alcohol, then I might post a link to a fatal motorcycle accident.

Just so you know; I generally don't read these links on our forum about strangers who get killed riding. It's not that I don't feel for them; believe me, I DO! It's just too much of a downer for me to get that upset over someone I don’t know. I come here for fun and to exchange information about motorcycles; not to mourn the death of an unknown biker!

If I want to read about dead bikers, I can find enough of that on the internet or do a search through several of the major Detroit area newspapers during riding season.

But.......like I said, don't let me stop people from posting dead biker links; 9 out of 10 times, I just won't read them!
Phil

[Hawaii 600]

The world must be out of joint, I agree with Phil!
I have seen dead rider link posters come and go. They come and post their dead rider links for a while then they post a "I give up riding, its too dangerous" post and fade away. Riding is not for everybody, If all you can think about is spots on the highway maybe its not for you.
Glen

[AngryHatter]

Originally Posted by pokey

I think you are out of line Sparc. Are you a moderator on this site? You talk like it. I think this kind of story is important to read. Especially for new riders like myself. A young couple died in a horrible manner that probably could have been avoided. This story should keep you riding as safe as possible, it will me.

I agree with Sparc.
If a thread is made everytime a biker dies we'd have very little else to read/talk about.

[harryco]

I known that there are two schools of thought in this post, and I agree with 'Pokey' that says "I think this kind of story is important to read. Especially for new riders like myself. A young couple died in a horrible manner that probably could have been avoided. This story should keep you riding as safe as possible, it will me."

It had that effect on me, and I will think twice when approaching that turnoff where the accident occured, as it is fairly close to where I live.
Apparently it is also going to help 'Pokey' to ride ' as safe as possible', and for that , I'm glad.
I feel that I did the right thing in posting the link in the first place, as it HAS helped someone, besides myself.

It would be nice to sign off by saying " Ride safe" but feel that I will be accused of ordering some people on how to ride. Therefor, I will just sign off by saying that I hope I don't read about any of our members in the newspapers, for the wrong reason.

BTW, I started riding bikes at the age of 15, and am now 73 and still ride, so do have some experience, but I can learn from what others do wrong especially if their mistake proves to be fatal.

Harry.