Wont start all of a sudden. Ignitor?? - Honda Shadow Forums : Shadow Motorcycle Forum

zappa · 05-02-2011, 10:00 AM

Ok, bike was running fine. Choke cable broke and I was starting it by pulling choke cable by hand. 1 day went to start it and it wanted to start but it just wouldnt "catch". Put new cable on when it finally came in and it still wont start. Its getting gas, you can smell it at exaust, and its getting spark but very faint. A harley tech friend of mine thinks its the ignitor because of the faint spark when we took out the spark plug and tested spark.
Any thoughts here????

93gc40 · 05-02-2011, 10:06 AM

What kind of bike is this? I'm not convinced it is not choke related?

zappa · 05-02-2011, 10:23 AM

Sorry..Its a 96 Shadow 1100c.

93gc40 · 05-02-2011, 10:33 AM

Checked all 4 plugs.. You have 2 pulse generators, 2 coils and 2 Ignitors, 1 for each cylinder. Also what is condition of the battery, NOT voltage unless it is less than 12 or more than 13.5...
I still believe it is getting Floaded. Floats getting stuck is very common and chokes also get stuck.

zappa · 05-02-2011, 10:44 AM

Hmm...Flooded. Sounds logical. Maybe when I was pulling choke cable by hand the last time I may have pulled to hard and did something???

93gc40 · 05-02-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by zappa

Hmm...Flooded. Sounds logical. Maybe when I was pulling choke cable by hand the last time I may have pulled to hard and did something???

That is exactly my first impression. I have a rule, If something is bad or in need of adjustment. And I have a problem pop up. DO NOT look for a new cause to the issue, until the first issue is FULLY resolved.
In the case of a broke choke cable, that I have been operating by hand. Fixing the cable may not fix the issue, because the hand actation may have cause issues, inside the carburetor, ENRICHER valve could just need adjusting

zappa · 05-02-2011, 05:29 PM

Update.. took carb boots off,sprayed carb and choke cleaner in them, and then sprayed starting fluid in while cranking it over. It started right up and ran until fluid was gone. Put fresh gas in the tank, and new plugs and same thing. Only starts if I spray starting fluid into air filter.WTF !!

gramez · 05-03-2011, 08:27 PM

jets are clogged.

95shadow1099 · 05-04-2011, 06:50 AM

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jets are clogged.

+1, or pump is bad, float stuck, etc. Fuel not getting to/through carbs.....find out why and your set.

PainterD · 05-04-2011, 07:13 AM

Fuel pump relay or fuel pump itself maybe. Just guessing.

05-02-2011, 10:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
zappa Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Poconos,Pa. Posts: 34	Wont start all of a sudden. Ignitor?? Ok, bike was running fine. Choke cable broke and I was starting it by pulling choke cable by hand. 1 day went to start it and it wanted to start but it just wouldnt "catch". Put new cable on when it finally came in and it still wont start. Its getting gas, you can smell it at exaust, and its getting spark but very faint. A harley tech friend of mine thinks its the ignitor because of the faint spark when we took out the spark plug and tested spark. Any thoughts here????

05-02-2011, 10:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
93gc40 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 4,292	What kind of bike is this? I'm not convinced it is not choke related? __________________ 93 VT1100C Harley Killer (1150cc), VH Exhaust, 2mm sleeved and bored, Modified Heads and Valves, Adjustable Timing, Touring Seat, Baby Apes, Metzlers

05-02-2011, 10:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
93gc40 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 4,292	Checked all 4 plugs.. You have 2 pulse generators, 2 coils and 2 Ignitors, 1 for each cylinder. Also what is condition of the battery, NOT voltage unless it is less than 12 or more than 13.5... I still believe it is getting Floaded. Floats getting stuck is very common and chokes also get stuck. __________________ 93 VT1100C Harley Killer (1150cc), VH Exhaust, 2mm sleeved and bored, Modified Heads and Valves, Adjustable Timing, Touring Seat, Baby Apes, Metzlers

05-04-2011, 07:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
PainterD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Central, Minnesota Posts: 7,530	Fuel pump relay or fuel pump itself maybe. Just guessing. __________________

05-02-2011, 10:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
zappa Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Poconos,Pa. Posts: 34	Sorry..Its a 96 Shadow 1100c.

05-02-2011, 10:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
zappa Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Poconos,Pa. Posts: 34	Hmm...Flooded. Sounds logical. Maybe when I was pulling choke cable by hand the last time I may have pulled to hard and did something???

05-02-2011, 05:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
zappa Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Poconos,Pa. Posts: 34	Update.. took carb boots off,sprayed carb and choke cleaner in them, and then sprayed starting fluid in while cranking it over. It started right up and ran until fluid was gone. Put fresh gas in the tank, and new plugs and same thing. Only starts if I spray starting fluid into air filter.WTF !!

05-03-2011, 08:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
gramez Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Snow Hill, MD Posts: 19	jets are clogged.

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