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Spectrum124 · 03-30-2012, 11:35 AM

After my oil change went seriously wrong: An Oil Change Gone Seriously Wrong!
there is a "ticking" sound coming from the right side of the crankcase on my 2007 Spirit VT750C2.

I've uploaded a video here: VT750C2 Ticking.MOV - YouTube
The predominant, and higher pitched, sound in the video is the ticking I am talking about, exhaust is in the background with lower tones.

I'm currently living in Norway and dealership service is beyond outrageous here (for comparison gas is around $11/gal) and I'd like to figure this out and take care of it myself if at all possible.

Anyone have any ideas, comments, thoughts, or suggestions?

MarineCorpsFlorist · 03-30-2012, 11:42 AM

I'd start by taking the cover off and looking at what's inside there. Maybe a piece of something floating around... sorry

gdb069 · 03-30-2012, 11:51 AM

I read through the original post and there is a thread by Maverick750 you should read. States" replaced the clutch basket and primary drive gear "

MarineCorpsFlorist · 03-30-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gdb069

I read through the original post and there is a thread by Maverick750 you should read. States" replaced the clutch basket and primary drive gear "

I saw that too. but he described it as a loud clank... what we have here is a tick.

Freak_leg · 03-30-2012, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectrum124

After my oil change went seriously wrong: An Oil Change Gone Seriously Wrong!
there is a "ticking" sound coming from the right side of the crankcase on my 2007 Spirit VT750C2.

I've uploaded a video here: VT750C2 Ticking.MOV - YouTube
The predominant, and higher pitched, sound in the video is the ticking I am talking about, exhaust is in the background with lower tones.

I'm currently living in Norway and dealership service is beyond outrageous here (for comparison gas is around $11/gal) and I'd like to figure this out and take care of it myself if at all possible.

Anyone have any ideas, comments, thoughts, or suggestions?

Does the sound change at all if you hold the clutch in or work the rpm's up?

gdb069 · 03-30-2012, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarineCorpsFlorist

I saw that too. but he described it as a loud clank... what we have here is a tick.

Maverick actually called it a rattle and then a chatter and when I listened to the video it could be described as chattering more than ticking.

Spectrum124 · 03-30-2012, 02:31 PM

The sound (click, tick, chatter) does not change with the clutch engaged/disengaged although it seems to increase/decrease in tempo with engine rpm increase/decrease.

I've had the crankcase open five times since the original incident. Oil changed, magnetic drainplug installed, and all of the gears, chain links, and other moving parts that are visible show no degrading, abuse, or wear at all for that matter.

I've also sent a PM to Maverick750 to see what their thoughts are.

Maverick750 · 04-03-2012, 03:31 PM

Unfortunately Spectrum124, that is the same kind of noise I was hearing, and like you I had my crankcase apart/back together several times hoping to find a loose bit of metal or something (anything!) obvious to avoid randomly replacing parts. Alas, everything seemed to be in perfect condition but the noise persisted.

I finally bit the bullet and replaced the clutch basket and primary drive gear (as several threads here suggested I would) and the noise immediately stopped. All I can think is that the specs on that basket are too tight for damage to be obvious, and that the dipstick is (despite getting as chewed up as an Amity Island tourist in the process) hard enough to throw that hard-ass basket out of whack.

I'm betting if you replace those two items the noise will stop. It's a gamble, but I it has been the right move for several people on this forum in similar circumstances. By now you can probably work around that crankcase blindfolded anyway. I'm sorry this happened to you.

Honda should implement a sleeve in that dipstick slot or something to keep the little b!tch away from the moving parts. It's just too easy (and too costly) to forget to screw it in, especially considering how often one checks/changes the oil.

Good luck!

Maverick750 · 04-03-2012, 04:26 PM

Here are some links that may be helpful:

HSN Thread - Clutch Basket

HSN Thread - Clutch Center Holder

ShadowAero750 Forum PDF about 4degree Mod

Spectrum124 · 04-05-2012, 10:04 AM

Much appreciated Maverick750! I'll look into those other threads and post back when I have progress or another obstacle.

03-30-2012, 11:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
Spectrum124 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 11	Unknown "ticking" after oil change gone seriously wrong After my oil change went seriously wrong: An Oil Change Gone Seriously Wrong! there is a "ticking" sound coming from the right side of the crankcase on my 2007 Spirit VT750C2. I've uploaded a video here: VT750C2 Ticking.MOV - YouTube The predominant, and higher pitched, sound in the video is the ticking I am talking about, exhaust is in the background with lower tones. I'm currently living in Norway and dealership service is beyond outrageous here (for comparison gas is around $11/gal) and I'd like to figure this out and take care of it myself if at all possible. Anyone have any ideas, comments, thoughts, or suggestions?

03-30-2012, 11:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
MarineCorpsFlorist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Union County, New Jersey Posts: 1,171	I'd start by taking the cover off and looking at what's inside there. Maybe a piece of something floating around... sorry __________________ 6114 UH-1N and AH-1J Helo Mechanic 86' - 90', Pendleton and Okinawa. 2007 VT1100C - Black... my favorite color.

03-30-2012, 02:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
Spectrum124 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 11	The sound (click, tick, chatter) does not change with the clutch engaged/disengaged although it seems to increase/decrease in tempo with engine rpm increase/decrease. I've had the crankcase open five times since the original incident. Oil changed, magnetic drainplug installed, and all of the gears, chain links, and other moving parts that are visible show no degrading, abuse, or wear at all for that matter. I've also sent a PM to Maverick750 to see what their thoughts are. Last edited by Spectrum124; 03-30-2012 at 02:38 PM.

04-03-2012, 03:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
Maverick750 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Edgecombe, NC Posts: 923	Unfortunately Spectrum124, that is the same kind of noise I was hearing, and like you I had my crankcase apart/back together several times hoping to find a loose bit of metal or something (anything!) obvious to avoid randomly replacing parts. Alas, everything seemed to be in perfect condition but the noise persisted. I finally bit the bullet and replaced the clutch basket and primary drive gear (as several threads here suggested I would) and the noise immediately stopped. All I can think is that the specs on that basket are too tight for damage to be obvious, and that the dipstick is (despite getting as chewed up as an Amity Island tourist in the process) hard enough to throw that hard-ass basket out of whack. I'm betting if you replace those two items the noise will stop. It's a gamble, but I it has been the right move for several people on this forum in similar circumstances. By now you can probably work around that crankcase blindfolded anyway. I'm sorry this happened to you. Honda should implement a sleeve in that dipstick slot or something to keep the little b!tch away from the moving parts. It's just too easy (and too costly) to forget to screw it in, especially considering how often one checks/changes the oil. Good luck! __________________

04-03-2012, 04:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
Maverick750 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Edgecombe, NC Posts: 923	Here are some links that may be helpful: HSN Thread - Clutch Basket HSN Thread - Clutch Center Holder ShadowAero750 Forum PDF about 4degree Mod __________________

04-05-2012, 10:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
Spectrum124 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 11	Much appreciated Maverick750! I'll look into those other threads and post back when I have progress or another obstacle.

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