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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-17-2017, 09:18 AM Thread Starter
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03 ACE Shifting Troubles

Ok gentlemen, let me start with, Forgive me my absence; been so dayum busy the last few months it's not even funny, but all is well (as promised @Moonrider I'm back).
But I have returned, and while I hate to jump back into the forum with a problem: I have a problem.


My 03 ACE Deluxe was shifting poorly, and now seems to not be shifting much at all.

I changed the oil about 3 weeks ago to start the season, took her out, and all was well.

Rode the next day and I had some trouble downshifting, I hit a hard bottom with shifter but the gear didnt drop. I found if I coasted for a bit, and pulled the shifter up it would then downshift as normal.

Next few rides I had the same problem, and it a couple times I had to pull over and rock forward to get the gears to cooperate (a problem I've had the whole time I've had Grace but not often, always going into first from neutral at a standstill)

That problem seemed to work itself out after 3 or 4 short rides, but then last night, about 11pm, on my way home from teaching a class and not but a 1/2 mile from the house, I could not get her to shift above 2nd no matter what I did, and this is the first time I've ever had trouble UP shifting.

Now My first thought was slack in the clutch cable, but it feels right at the lever, and I can cycle through 1 N 2 fine, so I fear I'm in deeper trouble.

Lend me your thoughts and expertise brothers, it's 78* already this morning and I had to take the truck to work.


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I would clean, inspect for damage or looseness and lube the shift linkage first.

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Check clutch adjustment, if that looks good then pull the clutch and inspect and clean. That's where I'd start.


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Have you ever tried shifting without the clutch after you get moving? I have tried a few times and it is very easy. Just relax pressure on the throttle and gears, and it will pop in up or down. I don't like to do it but it is good to know in case of a clutch failure. I only mention this to see if you can shift up without the clutch in this case. If not it must be an internal problem with the shift drums.


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Have you ever tried shifting without the clutch after you get moving? I have tried a few times and it is very easy. Just relax pressure on the throttle and gears, and it will pop in up or down. I don't like to do it but it is good to know in case of a clutch failure. I only mention this to see if you can shift up without the clutch in this case. If not it must be an internal problem with the shift drums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq11CusULlk
I hard shift all the time, 3 of my cages are manual and I do it in them too, no response above 2nd that way either last night.
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That'll be my first thing, but I have some fear that it may be something else, because it won't go when I hard shift like swifty suggested

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If the shift lever moves normally but doesn't click into the gears it may be a shift selector problem and not internal with the gears. This video is an example, but your link is a different shape.


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If the shift lever moves normally but doesn't click into the gears it may be a shift selector problem and not internal with the gears. This video is an example, but your link is a different shape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF0kTTf1bgw
That sounds like what I felt, I'll watch the video at lunch

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Here is some more lunch time entertainment.


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A bent shifting fork comes to mind here.


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Here is some more lunch time entertainment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx5ImN5NuUs
Watched them both, that sure seems to fit the feel.
I'll take a look... and hopefully find the problem.

If not @Scared I'll keep going and check the fork, though I'm not sure how it would have bent, though I suppose it could be a leftover problem from PO finally manifesting.

Either way I'll update this thread for prosperity when I find the problem.

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