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txridr · 06-21-2010, 01:51 PM

I am stuck on this step. How do I remove these round bolts? Or do I have to remove them? The manual's picture is also there in the "photostream" on the right side of webpage.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9838830@N08/4721147209/

Croz · 06-21-2010, 02:20 PM

Can you reach around the back of those round bolts to see if you're seeing the bottom of them?

If the two hex heads at the right are removed, can you get those round ones out?

DISCLAIMER: I've not done this before, I'm just speculating based on the pictures.

txridr · 06-21-2010, 05:32 PM

The local Honda dealer referred me to a local locksmith since they don't cut keys there.
Those are headless bolts that are permanently in place.
The code is stamped on the outside of the cylinder: three numbers, a letter, then three numbers (123J456)
Got two keys for $40; It was $35 for one.
Time to start ridin'.

Mauro.

RedClayRider · 06-21-2010, 05:57 PM

According to my Clymer manual, those are "break-off bolts". It says to center-punch the bolts, then drill off the bolt shanks with a hand drill. It earlier notes that you should purchase new ignition switch break-off bolts when ordering the switch.
Please note that I'm not telling you drill out the bolts, but that's what the Clymer manual seems to say.
Good luck!
-redClayRider

cycleheart1100c · 06-21-2010, 06:52 PM

Do you have a dremmel or a small die grinder with a cutting wheel? You can cut a slot in the exposed portion and remove them with a screw driver.

txridr · 06-23-2010, 01:50 PM

Found the damn key: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9838830@N08/4727478239/

It was in a short's pocket. Looked in all my pants, but not my shorts.
Well, at least I have spares now.

Drail · 06-24-2010, 09:51 AM

Honda has for many years use special "breakaway" screws to mount ignition switches on most of the vehicles they make. When installed the heads snap off at a predetermined torque value making it difficult for thieves to access the switch's wiring. To replace the switch they tell you to carefully drill out the old ones, new breakaway screws are included with the switch from the dealer. The last couple I had to replace I torqued just enough to secure the switch but stopped short of snapping off the heads so I could remove it again if necessary. A clever idea but I don't think it would stop a determined thief.

ngc316 · 11-20-2012, 09:08 AM

I used a hex key to get these off. Worked fine. If you ever need to do this again go to a hardware store and look for a hex key set

06-21-2010, 01:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
txridr Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: TX Posts: 48	Need help removing ignition switch. I am stuck on this step. How do I remove these round bolts? Or do I have to remove them? The manual's picture is also there in the "photostream" on the right side of webpage. http://www.flickr.com/photos/9838830@N08/4721147209/ __________________ What do you call a cyclist who doesn't wear a helmet? An organ donor. ~David Perry

06-21-2010, 02:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Croz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida, USA Posts: 480	Can you reach around the back of those round bolts to see if you're seeing the bottom of them? If the two hex heads at the right are removed, can you get those round ones out? DISCLAIMER: I've not done this before, I'm just speculating based on the pictures. __________________ 1999 Yamaha V Star 1100 - Honorary Honda Shadow

06-21-2010, 05:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
txridr Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: TX Posts: 48	The local Honda dealer referred me to a local locksmith since they don't cut keys there. Those are headless bolts that are permanently in place. The code is stamped on the outside of the cylinder: three numbers, a letter, then three numbers (123J456) Got two keys for $40; It was $35 for one. Time to start ridin'. Mauro. __________________ What do you call a cyclist who doesn't wear a helmet? An organ donor. ~David Perry

06-21-2010, 05:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
RedClayRider Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 20	According to my Clymer manual, those are "break-off bolts". It says to center-punch the bolts, then drill off the bolt shanks with a hand drill. It earlier notes that you should purchase new ignition switch break-off bolts when ordering the switch. Please note that I'm not telling you drill out the bolts, but that's what the Clymer manual seems to say. Good luck! -redClayRider __________________ 2002 Spirit VT750DC -RedClayRider

06-21-2010, 06:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
cycleheart1100c Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: northern utah Posts: 652	Do you have a dremmel or a small die grinder with a cutting wheel? You can cut a slot in the exposed portion and remove them with a screw driver. __________________ Cycleheart 05 spirit 1100 Northern Utah PGR

06-23-2010, 01:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
txridr Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: TX Posts: 48	Shoot! Found the damn key: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9838830@N08/4727478239/ It was in a short's pocket. Looked in all my pants, but not my shorts. Well, at least I have spares now. __________________ What do you call a cyclist who doesn't wear a helmet? An organ donor. ~David Perry

06-24-2010, 09:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
Drail Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: INDIANA Posts: 476	Honda has for many years use special "breakaway" screws to mount ignition switches on most of the vehicles they make. When installed the heads snap off at a predetermined torque value making it difficult for thieves to access the switch's wiring. To replace the switch they tell you to carefully drill out the old ones, new breakaway screws are included with the switch from the dealer. The last couple I had to replace I torqued just enough to secure the switch but stopped short of snapping off the heads so I could remove it again if necessary. A clever idea but I don't think it would stop a determined thief. __________________ A 9m is a .45 set on stun

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