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Can you tell the difference in sound on a VT Honda or a HD

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Can you tell the difference in sound on a VT Honda or a Harley D. (both bikes with straight pipes) when you hear a bike approaching you from a distance?
I did not guess right once when I guessed... I guessed on a old HD but the bike that came was a VT1100.. =)

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HD sued Honda over this and lost.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...UmFKhF-IHYwS7x.

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You probably couldn't tell which one was the Harley because they were both moving and from a distance. Up close you should be able to tell them apart.


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You probably couldn't tell which one was the Harley because they were both moving and from a distance. Up close you should be able to tell them apart.


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At that time there was only one bike coming and that was the VT1100.... =)
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Isn’t the vt1100 a single pin motor like Harley’s that’s why it makes the Harley “potato potato” sound


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At that time there was only one bike coming and that was the VT1100.... =)
Okay, got it....
I've heard some nice sounding exhaust tones from Honda V-twins (my 750ACE being one of them.)
I've never owned a Harley but have friends that do, the reason I mentioned hearing them "Up Close" is because Harley engines have more of a mechanical sound. Harley's use rocker arms actuated by push rods riding on a cam to open the valves, whereas Honda V-twins have overhead cams which eliminates the push rod and the rocker arm.
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Isn’t the vt1100 a single pin motor like Harley’s that’s why it makes the Harley “potato potato” sound


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So my VT800 can´t get that "potato potato" sound then?
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The 1100 I believe was the only one with a single pin crank, meaning the cylinders move up and down at the same time altho each one is in a different cycle, ones exhaust while the other is intake, the 800,750, and 650 are all dual pin cranks meaning the pistons move opposite . One is moving up as the other moves down. Hard to get a dual pin to sound like a Harley because of this unless you lower the idle to much and then you are starving the top end of oil at idle


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Can you tell the difference in sound on a VT Honda or a HD

You get more power and smoother motor out of a dual pin motor, compared to a single pin motor of the same size


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I never thought the "potato potato" sounded good at idle. Sounds out of tune like uts struggling to stay alive. They sound ok cruising but at a stop light they make me gringe

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