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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-18-2017, 12:19 AM
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...unless he means the engine "turns over," but doesn't start...
He said the starter was turning.

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He actually said the motor whines, but won't turn.

I think this needs more clarification. Is the starter turning causing the whine? Is the motor seized? I would then be looking at an over heating issue.


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wow! thanks for the advices!

What do you mean by "3-yellow wires"?
There are 3-yellow wires, going from the battery or regulator to the stator, with a connector under the seat. It's a common issue on the Shadow bikes for that connector to heat up, burn up, or blacken, causing intermittent or total lack of juice going to the bike, and it happens on practically ALL models. Honda did it that way since it needs 30A at the stator, but to get one wire to handle that much current would take something big and more expensive, so they just run 3 regular wires taking 10A each, instead.

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This could be a couple of things. Like @smurfy71 1 said, it might be the gas tank vent tube being clogged, and taking off the gas cap will let you know if that's what the problem is, as the bike will start and run fine without the cap on, but when you put the cap back on, it will die a little later. Another possibility is the coils. If there is a crack in the coil, it will run fine for a while, until that coil heats up and separates, causing the bike to die, and not be able to start until it's cooled off enough to get closer together so the spark can jump the gap again, and then runs until it heats up and separates and dies again. You should also check the 3-yellow wires, as that can cause all kinds of trouble, including not starting or dying. You can get a replacement for that connector for about $3, if it's burned/fried. Another possibility is the start switch itself. Open the switch housing, and check it for loose wires and good contact, clean it, and put it back together. However, that usually is seen with pushing the start button, and nothing happens but the lights going out.
Okay.. finally made some time to check on the bike!

first of all, I bought this bike about a month ago. and today was the first time I actually opened her up to see what is going on. and wow... she looks a bit different from my other Steed 600.

this is how she looks on the right side...

first what I noticed is that a fuse connector is burned out. and there was a exposed burned 30A fuse. could this be the stater starter relay fuse?

I checked the coils and coils itself was within spec according to the factory service manual. BUT.. the front coil failed the secondary coil resistance.

that's what I found out so far..

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Okay.. finally made some time to check on the bike!

first of all, I bought this bike about a month ago. and today was the first time I actually opened her up to see what is going on. and wow... she looks a bit different from my other Steed 600.

this is how she looks on the right side...

first what I noticed is that a fuse connector is burned out. and there was a exposed burned 30A fuse. could this be the stater starter relay fuse?

I checked the coils and coils itself was within spec according to the factory service manual. BUT.. the front coil failed the secondary coil resistance.

that's what I found out so far..

thanks for reading.
If it's a 30A fuse, it's most likely for the starter relay. I'd change that first, and see how it does after that. If that alone doesn't make a difference, I might be inclined to have that front coil tested at a shop or simply replace it. I suspect one or the other or both are causing the issue.
BTW, it also looks like PO also replaced the turn signal flasher/relay (the clear round cylinder in there with the two wires going to it), which may have been done if they replaced regular bulbs or turn signals with LEDs or something like that.


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Another fellow here has burned connector on the solenoid and I found this connector and the solenoid on ebay, but from China, only $14.00. That would at least get you back to factory setup again with little work. Probably the connector has burned and lost connections.


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thanks everybody for your answers.

After changing the coil, fuel cut relay AND the carburetor(from my other Steed), she srarts and runs great!(for now...)
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