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The wiring work I was referring to was not with the connector, but with most of these LED lights anymore, resistors have to be installed so the warning lights (headlight out, etc.) work properly.


The headlights are usually plug and play. I know the MotoLed bulb I use is, and the Opt7 is as well. The resistors are in the wiring.

If you have a sealed beam, Iíd get a Daymaker, or the Sunpie knockoff and make it work. Might need some slight mods to fit or wiring mods. Again, both these donít require resistors.



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post #12 of 23 (permalink) Old 09-22-2018, 10:03 PM Thread Starter
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@swifty2014 , @smurfy71 : Thanks guys. I still have to look to see if I have the other headlight assembly with the lens to do the H4 style (plugs) bulb. If I do, and if the resistor is built-in to the LED, I may switch her over. I just don't like the idea of cutting and splicing into the original wiring harness. Call me quirky, but it ain't broke...


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I agree since I like to keep things as the factory designed them also. Even if you have to splice in to get an additional power wire, if it has a fan, the original plug should still be good to use.


I am cheap too so I wonder if these others work fine?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-COB-LED-...9biLZ0&vxp=mtr


https://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-COB-LED-...5bWT3l&vxp=mtr

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I agree since I like to keep things as the factory designed them also. Even if you have to splice in to get an additional power wire, if it has a fan, the original plug should still be good to use.


I am cheap too so I wonder if these others work fine?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-COB-LED-...9biLZ0&vxp=mtr


https://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-COB-LED-...5bWT3l&vxp=mtr
eBay is saying they are not compatible with my bike, but I don't see how they aren't. H4 is H4. It seems they all have built-in fans. I just don't know if the resistor thing would be an issue; that I'd need to have to wire one in. Like you guys said, it seems that it is only needed on turning signals and brake lights, but who knows at this point?

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I think they say they are not compatible because many times they don't know if they will fit into the space, etc. I wonder also if these units are larger because my bucket it full of factory wiring and connections. These 2 units above may not have a fan and look to be smaller. Then I wonder also how hot they will get inside the tight area. Too may unknowns.
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The Opt7 looks big but maybe not much difference.
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I think the only reason turn signals LEDs need resistors and diodes at times, is so the flasher works correctly with a smaller current load, and if there is a single indicator bulb for the turn signals it must be isolated to work correctly.
The headlight is self contained so it is just another bulb to the wiring.

But if your bike has the factory warning unit to show when the tail or brake light burns out, then it may need a resistor also so that unit won't be fooled by a smaller load bulb.

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I think the only reason turn signals LEDs need resistors and diodes at times, is so the flasher works correctly with a smaller current load, and if there is a single indicator bulb for the turn signals it must be isolated to work correctly.
The headlight is self contained so it is just another bulb to the wiring.

But if your bike has the factory warning unit to show when the tail or brake light burns out, then it may need a resistor also so that unit won't be fooled by a smaller load bulb.
It does have the factory warning system. I am thinking it may need one. As you said, too many unknowns; I'll have to do some more research. At least you guys have been some help and I do appreciate that. Any further info will always be welcome.

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The Opt7 looks big but maybe not much difference.
I've got no problem cutting the housing a little and spreading it out just enough
so the bulb will fit, if need be...had to do that on a Yamaha years ago,
when switching to Halogen to fit the new bulb assembly...
then used black duct tape to go over the cuts to reseal everything.
Since that whole area was hidden by the stuff that surrounds it,
it works, doesn't leak, and doesn't look bad.

Hacksaw, make a straight 2" cut on each side, spread out with a screwdriver,
cover with the tape, TaDa! Invisible, but gives that little bit of extra room!

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I've got no problem cutting the housing a little and spreading it out just enough
so the bulb will fit, if need be...had to do that on a Yamaha years ago,
when switching to Halogen to fit the new bulb assembly...
then used black duct tape to go over the cuts to reseal everything.
Since that whole area was hidden by the stuff that surrounds it,
it works, doesn't leak, and doesn't look bad.

Hacksaw, make a straight 2" cut on each side, spread out with a screwdriver,
cover with the tape, TaDa! Invisible, but gives that little bit of extra room!
I will have to investigate that option should I be able to see if I can put that bulb in there. Thanks!


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