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Is full synthetic 0W-40 oil Ok for my VT600CD? What about high mileage synthetic?

I'm considering 3 different oils for my 97 VT600CD, all of which are Amazonbasics oil because their oil performed extremely well in tests on the Project Farm youtube channel... and it's inexpensive.



1) 0W-40 Full Synthetic ( It says European Formula... dunno if that would truly make a difference)

2) 10W-40 High Mileage Synthetic Blend ( My VLX isn't high mileage, 12k... not sure if it makes a difference)
3) 10W-40 Conventional (May be the most wise decision)



What oil are ya'll running, any input on these formulas/weights?



1) https://smile.amazon.com/AmazonBasic...r=8-6-fkmrnull

2) https://smile.amazon.com/AmazonBasic...r=8-3-fkmrnull

3) https://smile.amazon.com/AmazonBasic...r=8-3-fkmrnull

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I don't know what advantage it would be to have a 0 weight oil unless you are in a very cold area. But watch out that none of them are automotive oils with the energy conserving badge because they may cause a slipping clutch. They have to be JASO-MA oils for the bikes. None of the Amazon oils show JASO specs.



I use Rotella T4 15-40 and it works fine. I tried the Rotella T6 Synthetic and on my old engine, the cam bore rubber plugs started to leak faster since the synthetic can clean out old sludge build up.



https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Rot...llon/181236405





This may be a problem with the clutch=

Friction-Reducing Formula

AmazonBasics full-synthetic motor oil creates a protective coating that helps reduce wear on engine components. By minimizing friction from an engineís in-contact moving parts (which wastes otherwise useful power), the motor oil helps enhance fuel economy and promotes better power output and performance.


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Don't use those oils. They have friction modifiers and that' not good for wet clutch bikes.
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Since you asked, I use 5w40 RotellaT6 in my 4 motorcycles. And a lot of other other things. It can usually be had for around $22/gal.


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The lubricants I use are listed in The Owner's Manual by Honda. And I purchase them from the local Honda shop at prices that aren't over priced. And this expenditure at the Honda saves me lots of time from reading threads on lubricants.

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I'm considering 3 different oils for my 97 VT600CD, all of which are Amazonbasics oil because their oil performed extremely well in tests on the Project Farm youtube channel... and it's inexpensive.


I used to subscribe and watch that guy's videos until he started making some wild ass claims based on VERY little testing. Seems today he is more interested in pumping out the videos just for the sake of making them than doing any controlled testing. I wouldn't trust anything he says anymore and have quit watching him.

As for which oil to use in my bikes, I simply use what the manufacturer of my bike recommends. The reason is because the guys who built my bike know more about what it needs than random people on the Internet or Youtube.
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Rotella T6 used to be awesome but due to EPA mandates the formula as been changed to the point that Ford will void warranties if one uses it. I used it last fall and I had increased shifting noise thus my old Toyota beater is using it now. Went to Valvoline 4T dino for now. Basically to use synthetic now will cost a minimum of $30+.




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I had a problem with slight clutch slippage not too long ago. I just used any motor oil I had, WRONG ! I changed oil to a JASO-MA oil, problem went away.
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JASO MA is the oil approval you need.
Car motor oils (which is what the Amazon Basics oils are) are not designed for shared sump motorcycles. Many have friction modifiers in them that are very bad for wet clutches (they will say "Energy Conserving" on the API donut on the back, the 3 weights you linked do not say it).
Amazon Basics motor oil is a fine oil for a car, but not a first, second or third choice for a bike IMO.

If you are wanting to be cheap, that is fine, I am also cheap.
Supertech 15w-40 Heavy Duty Engine Oil (HDEO) will work just fine for your bike, cost $10/gallon at Walmart. It is not JASO MA certified, but many use it with no issues (myself included). No it is not synthetic, but will easily do 3000+ miles per change.
Other HDOE's will also work, because that also do not contain friction modifiers.

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Rotella T6 used to be awesome but due to EPA mandates the formula as been changed to the point that Ford will void warranties if one uses it. I used it last fall and I had increased shifting noise thus my old Toyota beater is using it now. Went to Valvoline 4T dino for now. Basically to use synthetic now will cost a minimum of $30+.


Iíve not noticed any problems. And RotellaT6 is still on Fordís list of approved oils meeting WSS-M2C171-F1.


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