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Make sure you have the proper free play in your clutch cable because if it has too much slop it won't release correctly.



Slop is sort of a lazy mechanical way of saying something is out of tolerance. Like "this worn piston has too much slop".


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Illness and bad weather prevented me from making any progress yesterday; but today I went out and readjusted the cables and it started --- however, it was short lived because after a minute or two it killed. Further attempts at restarting were unsuccessful. One further question for you! ***What does the fact that it will start every 15 or so attempts mean? Can that possibly be related to the adjustment of the throttle cables?*** I always thought that maladjusted throttle cables could put you at risk for injury or death, but I never imagined it would prevent the bike from consistently starting.

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You should have some slop in the throttle when you twist it back and forth. There are two different adjustments on the push pull cables, one up towards the grip and one down next to the carbs. I've always found the one by the carbs easier to adjust but you may have to lift up your tank a little.

It's also possible you messed up the kill switch wiring when changing out the cables.
I think you were correct in regards to the kill switch wiring. There appears to be a shortage. There is a sweet spot in the corner of the starter switch that gets me started, but only that one spot. It seems as if I am going to have to get a new starter switch or maybe this one can be cleaned. Thanks for your assistance & direction.
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The clutch and throttle cables should not keep it from starting, if it is neutral and the throttle is closed it should start.

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I am pretty certain there is a short in the switch assembly. The starter switch only responds when a certain spot in the corner is pushed, otherwise nothing. When I get home this evening I will go inside it and see what debris or corrosion might be shorting it out. Thanks a lot for your assistance!
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Adjust tour idle. Open it up more and then see if it runs then turn it down to the spec RPM it should be. Probably 900RPM. Also check the choke. If pulled out its closing the the air intake starving it. Push it back in. That or you reversed the open and close cables on the throttle.
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@Space Force 1 This is a good video for adjusting throttle cables. This guy is a mechanic at my local Honda dealer and is very good with what he does.


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Over the last several days we have been having flood like conditions with constant downpours so I haven't been able to get outside with the bike; however I have disassembled the right hand handlebar switch with the idea of cleaning out any corrosion that may have built up from outside storage. I thought that maybe the problem is with the starter switch. I think the weather may clear enough tomorrow that I can reassemble it and see if it works.
I had no idea that throttle cables played any part in the bike starting or not. I have changed throttle cables 3 times (this is the 4th) with no resulting issues with starting. When I reassemble the switch assembly I will pay fuller attention to the adjustments of the cables.
Thank you for your insight & advice.
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The clutch and throttle cables should not keep it from starting, if it is neutral and the throttle is closed it should start.
I made a mistake in thinking that my issue was related to a short or corrosion in the stop switch/starter switch. I never suspected it had anything to do with the throttle cables. In any event, I didn't notice before but now I see that when I click the starter button fluids (coolant?) drip out if the bike doesn't start. On the few occasions that it does start there is a sort of whiny sound & the fluids pour out. Does that sound like it has anything to do with the carburetor? If it were the carb would that prevent it from starting at all? The attachments are to show you where the leakage is.
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If you see drips from that black rubber boot area it is the oil pressure switch. It could have a leak and a loss of oil but would not keep it from cranking or starting. But check your oil level to be sure it is not low, now that you have seen leaking.


The throttle cable itself won't cause a no start. Just don't open the throttle while cranking, that usually works best.


If it will crank all the time, but not fire up then it is fuel or electrical related.


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