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Non-starting issue

This may be a twist on the non-starting issue, but I recently installed a new set of throttle cables and now suddenly the bike no longer starts. Out of 30 or so attempts it started 4 times. Each time that it does not start it sounds (for a second) as if it wants to start but doesn't. i have no idea where to begin, any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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I suspect your throttles are not closing all the way for some reason.


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Would you explain how the throttles failing to close would prevent the bike from starting? At what point do you suspect the throttles aren't closing: up top in the throttle grip, or down below attached to the carb.?
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Would you explain how the throttles failing to close would prevent the bike from starting? At what point do you suspect the throttles aren't closing: up top in the throttle grip, or down below attached to the carb.?


It’s just a WAG on my part. I have owned more than one motorcycle that would not cold start if the throttle was not fully closed. If the cables are too tight or misrouted that could cause problems. You installed new cables and now it won’t start. Hope you get it sorted out.


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How did you determine that your non-starting issue was related to your throttle not fully closing? What should I look for , or what type of test should I run, to determine whether or not that is the problem? (Like if it were the battery, or sparks etc. I could test them. I didn't realize anything other than compression, fuel, electric & air impacted starting, but I have a lot to learn I guess. Thank you!
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You should have some slop in the throttle when you twist it back and forth. There are two different adjustments on the push pull cables, one up towards the grip and one down next to the carbs. I've always found the one by the carbs easier to adjust but you may have to lift up your tank a little.

It's also possible you messed up the kill switch wiring when changing out the cables.

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You should have some slop in the throttle when you twist it back and forth. There are two different adjustments on the push pull cables, one up towards the grip and one down next to the carbs. I've always found the one by the carbs easier to adjust but you may have to lift up your tank a little.

It's also possible you messed up the kill switch wiring when changing out the cables.
As you can see I have a lot to learn: what is slop? I think you may be on to something in regards to the kill switch. I & going to check it for continuity. I think you put me on to something. Thanks!
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As you can see I have a lot to learn: what is slop? I think you may be on to something in regards to the kill switch. I & going to check it for continuity. I think you put me on to something. Thanks!
What he's referring to as "slop" is a little movement of the throttle grip without moving the throttle linkage at the carb. In other words, your cable adjusters aren't too tight. For future reference when changing cables, When you pull the old cable out, attach a piece of string or cord to it so when you reinstall the new one, you pull it back through the correct path.

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Slop could also be called slack, or free play.
The kill switch idea was on my mind also.
Get a meter or test light and put it on the black/white wire on a coil and see if you always have power with the key on.

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Thank you very much! Things are a lot clearer now. I didn't recognize the word "slop" and have never heard it before ( I have this glossary (web.archive.org/web/20071211174129/http://motorcycle-glossary.com/motorcycle-definitions/t/) that is supposed to have all of the words but it didn't have it. I do know what is meant by free play.

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