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Tire Life/expectancy 5 to 6k?

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Just wondering how long do tires normally last you guys?


Do you normally go though more rear tires then front, maybe 1 front to 2 Rear or some odd ratio?



Last Summer I had my rear replaced. Only had 1k miles but the hole was to bad.


Anyways. Fast forward, I have put 4k miles on it, and I am guessing by the wear (center) i have 1 or 2k left tops.


So is 5 to 6k good or bad for a rear tire?

I am not a speed demon, I ride around town allot and get out on the weekends and cruise.
I don't do burn outs.




The tire is a Dunlap. I just feel that is bad mileage for a tire.


Also the Front tire on the bike had 5k and still looks to be in great shape.


What Brand of tires do people like on their Shadows?

Wondering what I should consider.
Pretty sure i am going to try something other then Dunlap.


Was thinking maybe Bridgestone or Pirelli, however i am just looking i am not set any brand yet.


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I just got 10000 out of my last tire it was a kendra. I usually get between 8-10 out of a tire used different brands they all lasted about the same. I have a 1100 spirit


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On my 03 750 ACE, I normally go through 2 rear tires before replacing the front (17k miles average life on rear tires) I prefer Bridgestone's over Dunflaps, I’m currently running the BridgestoneExedra Max, maintaining proper inflation is key to tire life

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I went with Pirelli Night Dragons. I don't care about mileage but I ride pretty aggressively, more important to stick than how long the tire lasts. I've put 2,000 miles on my tires since last fall and they are wearing very slowly I see no problem getting 8K out of them. Maybe more. They stick well to everything. I have a VT1100 BTW.

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I've gotten 8-12,000 miles on Dunlop tires. Just Changed out a set of Michelin Commander IIs that I got a little over 16,000miles on each. When the rear wore out i went with a Shinko 777 on the rear and stuck with the commander II on the front. About 4-5000 miles on the Shinko and i'm already seeing pretty good wear. I don't think it will hold a candle to the Michelin as far as mileage. When it's shot, i'll be going back to a Commander II.

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I went with Pirelli Night Dragons. I don't care about mileage but I ride pretty aggressively, more important to stick than how long the tire lasts. I've put 2,000 miles on my tires since last fall and they are wearing very slowly I see no problem getting 8K out of them. Maybe more. They stick well to everything. I have a VT1100 BTW.
Your mileage will largely depend on your riding style and tire compound. I'm with @CoreyP , favoring a softer compound tire with shorter life expectancy, but excellent grip. Around town, there is usually more cornering, and for me more grip while cornering is worth the reduction in "mileage". Also keep in mind "aging", not just miles. Your tires have the week and year of manufacture stamped on the sidewall as a 4-digit code "wwyy" (e.g. 2208 would indicate week 22 of 2008. Even if there is no visible weather checking or other adverse indicators, depending on climate factors, like FL heat, you would want to avoid continuing to run "older" tires (say, 8-10 years, depending). When you buy tires, inspect the sidewall dates to ensure your dealer is selling you their "freshest" stock.

If it jams, force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyway.
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Most tend to get double the mileage from front tires vs rear.

Tire life depends on a lot of factors. What works for one may not work for another.
Type of bike (remember, the "Shadow" name has been used since 1983 on bikes ranging from 125cc to 1100cc, shaft and chain driven), weight (of bike, rider, gear, do you do a lot of 2 up riding), speeds ridden, road conditions (smooth asphalt, rough concrete, dirt roads, potholes, etc), weather (hot temps decrease mileage), driving conditions (lots of start/stops wears tire out faster than steady cruising), maintenance (checking pressure and tire balance), and tire construction (radial, bias ply, tread compound etc).
Oh, and the throttle, brake and downshifting.
While I am not a "speed demon" I do get on it pretty hard getting up to speed many times, and I do chirp the rear tire a lot downshifting without the clutch as well as doing a lot of engine braking.

Was the tire a Dunlop 404? If so, that is the problem. Lots of complaints about them not lasting.
My bike came with 404's on it front and rear. No idea how many miles on the tires (only 7500 miles on bike, but tires were not original, bike is a '94, tires were made in '07). Tread looked decent when I got it. Within 2,000 miles, they were getting smooth.

Shinko tires (777 and 230) are very popular and are OK mileage wise (but are an inexpensive tire), as is the Kenda Kruz.
You will get a lot of opinions, most based on personal use, some on hearsay.
Perilli, Bridgestone, Michelin, Metzler, Continental all have tires that have good reviews, and bad ones as well.
I was leaning to either a Shinko 777 or Perilli MT66 (what I ended up with on the front) when looking for tires, but ended up going darkside instead.
Now I don't worry about mileage.

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thanks, allot of good suggestions.


I agree/understand the more grip a tire has the fast it will wear.
This dunlop doesn't seem very grippy.



I am going check the model per what Blupupher suggested.


when I brought, it was an unexpected rushed purchase. I had to drop my bike off and be out of town. I in short told the guy to quote me some mid tier tires, something he would recommend for a family member. Maybe I should have said for a family member you like.


I might get more then I am thinking out of it, there is still some center tread left, but I will be monitoring it.



I am 300 plus, but don't double , except the rare trip I take my wife for a quick couple miles down the road and back. She didn't grow up around motorcycles and isn't really into them.

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Blupuphe, you nailed it. It is a D404.


it has 4k right now on it. I am certain i can get it at least 1k more. beyond that all bets are off.

Going to start making plans for a replacement. not going to get caught with my pants down again.




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again I understand preformance and reduced tire life. trying for a good balance.



I will post again when i get to the final milage on this D404.

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Honda XR 100 (82 ish)
Honda XL175 (1974)

Honda Rebel Limited Edition (86) (future restore planned, engine still runs good)
Honda Fat Cat (really dads but I rode it allot)
Yamaha 250 (2017)Vstar (recently sold)

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Being in the 300 lb range myself, that does not help tire life.
At one point, I was technically over the weight limit of the bike (mine is an 1100) just by myself, and would often do 50 mile trips with my 140 lb daughter on back, putting it over 500 lbs.

The problem with the 404 is it does handle OK in the dry, and for bikes only ridden 2000 miles a year in fair weather, it does OK, so people think "it is the stock tire and should have good life being a Dunlop (they make some amazing race tire for sure), but they are not known to be high mileage tires, and wet performance is mediocre (especially the rear, my front 404 was not to bad in the rain).

As you said, you now have time to research what exactly you want to get, compare prices, and hopefully find something that works for you.


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