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So I'm out riding yesterday....

I'm blazing down a 2 lane road...feet up on the highway pegs and as I approached a slight bent in the road I feel my back tire come out a little bit

Whoa...that's weird.

So I'm rolling into a small back road town and I get to a stop sign. I hit the gas to proceed after I stopped and my rear tire spun. I smell oil

WTF!?!?!?!

I look down and my oil light is on...Oh sh**#!

Insert a dozen explatives...

So I pull right over and there's oil pouring out from under my scoot. I look under it and I see a hole in my oil filter that I just installed. A hastings LF113 Oil filter. Premium my ass.

So this guy is sitting on his porch. Looks like a biker an I see him walking up. I notice he has a cut on. Hells Our Home. I'm like I hope he's cool. There's oil all over the street in front of his house.

Turns out he was cool. He took me to a parts store in town and I got oil and a new wix filter *in stock* holy crap no way!

He gave me a screw driver and a hammer. I punched a hole through the old filter and spun it off. Put on the new one and put in the oil. Started her up and I was back in business.

Moral of the story is...Karma finally came back to me for all the good things I've been doing the last few tears. Secondly....I'll never put a hastings filter on my bike again as long as I live! How a pin hole got in that filter I'll never know.

I'm just glad I didn't eat pavement. My back tire and rear brakes were covered with oil. I lost ALL of my oil in about a half of a mile.

Thank you god for keeping me upright...and thank you HOH for looking out for a fellow rider.

This is why you NEVER leave a motorcycle rider on the side of the road. Always stop to offer a helping hand. I will always make sure I do from this day forward. No matter what.
 

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Glad to hear that everything worked out okay. And yes, you should never judge someone by how they look. Also remember, it works BOTH WAYS!

I've missed some opportunities to help others along the road. More out of not thinking fast enough, than not willing. Do what you can, where you can, when you can.
 

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Glad it worked out. In the future, after you change the oil, you should always start it and closely inspect for leaks. Let her run for 5 minutes or so and make sure. I watched a buddy of mine empty ALL of his oil out of his diesel truck because the old filter gasket was stuck on his block when he put on the new filter. That was a LOT of oil.
 

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Always remember...regardless of colors, Law Enforcement, bike type, brand, race & religion and whatever else you want to discriminate against, we are all people who share an interest which occasionally goes nips-up. It would be a very disrespectful move for a HOH member to acknowledge another biker of unknown affiliation who needs help and dismisses. Karma kick to the noots.
 

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Glad it worked out. In the future, after you change the oil, you should always start it and closely inspect for leaks. Let her run for 5 minutes or so and make sure. I watched a buddy of mine empty ALL of his oil out of his diesel truck because the old filter gasket was stuck on his block when he put on the new filter. That was a LOT of oil.

When I changed the oil in my shadow last spring, I did the same thing... Forgot to check for the old gasket stuck to the block thing, put on the new filter, filled the oil, then started the bike, only to have about 2 litres spilled out on the driveway.... Lucky it was in the dirt driveway, rather than out on the road I guess, but now I always check that the old gasket either falls into the pan with the old oil, or it's still on the old filter.


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Glad it worked out. In the future, after you change the oil, you should always start it and closely inspect for leaks. Let her run for 5 minutes or so and make sure.
If I may add....after the 5 mins check the level again,,,you may find it needs a little more after the new oil runs through it.
 

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Same thing happened to a riding buddy while we were on a day trip. Except it was a Fram oil filter that sprung a leak at the seam near the top of the filter.

Not worth it to use cheap filters!

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Uh Oh! I just changed the oil and filter on my bike I've had for seven months. My first time to change oil on a motorcycle. After removing the old filter (a Honda filter), I noticed another rubber seal fell off. The Honda filter had the expected rubber seal still on the filter. So what's this extra rubber seal? I didn't try to use it with the new filter, a K&N. I just now checked again to be sure I have no leak at the filter, but it's fine. Am I missing something here?
 

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Back in the '80's I had an oil cooler line come loose from the cooler on the GPz riding home from work in downtown Indy. Riding in your own oil is a b***h. I managed to get the bike stopped and to the curb.

Next thing I know an older woman walks out of her house and asks if she can help, guess she saw the whole ordeal. She gave me (wouldn't allow me to pay for it) a quart of oil. After tightening up the clamp, pouring in the oil I was on my way. Never have forgotten her assistance, she didn't know me from Adam...

Glad to read you made it thru it unscathed!
 

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Uh Oh! I just changed the oil and filter on my bike I've had for seven months. My first time to change oil on a motorcycle. After removing the old filter (a Honda filter), I noticed another rubber seal fell off. The Honda filter had the expected rubber seal still on the filter. So what's this extra rubber seal? I didn't try to use it with the new filter, a K&N. I just now checked again to be sure I have no leak at the filter, but it's fine. Am I missing something here?
Sounds like the last person to change the oil did not remove the rubber seal and installed the new one with the seal as well. I think you will be fine and did the right thing not installing both seals.
 

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That was a lucky happy ending for your bike because sometimes the old oil filter gasket will seal for a while til you get up to 70 MPH and then blow all the oil out.
Bad News.
But in your case it sealed for a long while.
When working on cars I always made it a habit to wipe the oil filter sealing surface with a rag. That way you get all the old dirt and mud off and you can feel for any extra gaskets.
 

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Same thing happened to a riding buddy while we were on a day trip. Except it was a Fram oil filter that sprung a leak at the seam near the top of the filter.

Not worth it to use cheap filters!

Phil
That's funny...I use Fram on my Yamaha and never had an issue. I'm sure someone knows someone who had a Mobile 1 filter ($$$) fail.
 

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I look under it and I see a hole in my oil filter that I just installed. A hastings LF113 Oil filter. Premium my ass.

Secondly....I'll never put a hastings filter on my bike again as long as I live! How a pin hole got in that filter I'll never know.
Why the animus over Hastings filters? Any chance you kicked up something while riding and it hit the filter? I mean, if the whole was big enough to result in "oil pouring out" you would have had oil in your driveway when you started out.

So was "oil pouring out" or was it a pinhole?
 

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That's funny...I use Fram on my Yamaha and never had an issue. I'm sure someone knows someone who had a Mobile 1 filter ($$$) fail.
I've used Fram oil filters too over the years and never had a problem. But, a few years ago there was some controversy floating around about a decline in quality after Fram was purchased by a foreign investment company.

Maybe it was coincidence that his filter failed around the same time Fram was taken over............maybe not. I can tell you one thing that's for sure and without a doubt; I'm 60 years old and in my entire life I've never seen an oil filter fail other than the one Fram mentioned in my previous post. That alone is enough for me to stay away from them!

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Fram has always been junk and ive used Hastings for most of my life and never had a bad one. Just because it got a hole in it, doesnt mean its junk. The Wix is a good one though. I run an Amsoil filter now since i get it cheap with my oil from my local rep.
 

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Why the animus over Hastings filters? Any chance you kicked up something while riding and it hit the filter? I mean, if the whole was big enough to result in "oil pouring out" you would have had oil in your driveway when you started out.

So was "oil pouring out" or was it a pinhole?
It was a split. Looks like the filter failed. Yes oil was pouring out when the bike was running.

Now on its Honda or wix


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Here is a list of all the oil filters made by Fram and Champion Labs (same place) The only thing different is the color of powder coat on them and their box. I've worked at Champ Labs. I've seen them run almost all of these brands. It's the same components in all of them unless noted.

Fram Extra Guard (std)
Fram Tough Guard (different media?)
Fram X2 (Silicone ADBV, Fuzzy media)
Fram Extended Guard(same as the X2)
Mileguard (Jiffy)
Honda (although some are alleged to be made by Filtech)
Chrysler line up except for the Cummins
Penzoil
Deffense
Canadian Tire

Champion Labs

Bosch
Car and Driver
Deutsch
Mobil 1
STP
SuperTech
K&N
Valvoline filters
Mighty
Service Champ
Lee
AutoZone Value Craft
Some AC Delco
VW (some)
Warner
Luberfiner
Trust

So all the Fram haters will find it hard to stop buying Fram.
 
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