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Got a 96 VT1100 that I love. I'm thinking of also getting an 03 Harley fatboy for another bike. Just wanted to get some thoughts on what anyone thinks. I thought about getting another bike for years now, but I never get serious. Then I thought it would always be a big HD like an electraglide or a streetglide. Now that I have waited this long, I discovered that I really don't do any real long distance riding, just a lot of riding a little at a time. So this 03 fatboy is for sale from a friend of mine and it only has 4K miles on it. Extremely clean, anniversary edition with the black and silver paint scheme. Dunno... just thinking of getting it for a cool toy and still riding my Kawasaki for work and my Shadow wherever inbetween.
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I'm currently looking for a harley and I have a honda. I'm looking for old though, pre 1975. If you wanna do it do it!
 

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I owned and rode nothing but H/D's for the last 20+ years. Fantastic bikes. Comfortable, powerful and well built. I can't imagine you'd end up keeping the 1100 after riding a Fatboy for a while. The only real downside to some of owning an H/D is maintenance costs can be a little higher. Not because of break downs, that craps all a myth, but regular scheduled maintenance costs more on H/D's and can be a bit more in-depth. If you can find a great deal on one, I'd jump on it. Take care of it, there's a good chance you'd get your money back if you decide to use it to move up in the H/D line. Funny thing with H/D's is that many people do incrementally start moving up the H/D line once they buy their first one.
 

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I hear ya....but I may be a little different of a nut than most.....I stepped up from my 81 440 KZ to my 96 VT1100 13 years ago and I still ride my KZ regularly to work. Still love it just like the 1100. As far as stepping up again from a fatboy (if I get it), not really sure that would happen. I am a solo rider and not really into the big bikes anymore. I thought I would only ever get a street glide when got an HD....but the cost vs payoff for what I would use it for just never really made sense to me. To be honest, I'm really wondering how much I would ride the fatboy. I'm going to keep all 3 bikes if I get the fatboy and still plan to ride the KZ to work until it decides to quit. The shadow would most likely take over as the everyday work bike when the KZ finally decides to quit.
 

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i got one fairly recently, last fall.

i'm trying to reserve real judgement on it 'til maybe the end of the riding season or so. i can say i haven't felt and great light shine down on me. no "one ride was all it took" or anything like that. i like it as a companion to my honda, but at this point i don't see it as becoming a replacement.
 

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I have a 2001 shadow 1100 and a 2013 Street glide and as Swocs says the 1100 wont get used that much. I am keeping it for now because my wife is riding a 1998 750 ace and i want her on 1100. Both bikes have there place and both are Excellent rides.
 

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I have had Harleys, a 79 sporty 1000, an 02 fatboy, and a 03 duece. All were great bikes,it was the every time I turned around maintenance on the bikes. It was a constant vacuum on the wallet. I also had an 05 roadstar 1700. very similar bike to the harley, belt drive, separate transmission, air cooled. not near the maintenance to be done, and easier to do. Compared to the 1100 ACE I have now........well their is none, simply to maintain, no measuring and adjusting belts constantly. further between oil changes, etc. I do wish the Honda got the gas mileage the harley did though. cant have evrything I guess. so I will keep my Honda.
 

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I dont own a Harley but of all the Harleys I have ridden the Fat Bob was my favorite (test ridden on tight roads) with a wide glide coming close to it, yet to find a sporty that fits me ... Well I have sat one one that seamed OK but didn't ride that.

I would own one but they are way overpriced here and I do like my 93 VT1100C.... does everything I ask with little maintenance cost and looks great for 20+ years old
 

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I appreciate all this insight....I really do cause I am on the fence about getting the Fatboy. I don't think the price is the issue.....it is an 03 anniversary edition with only 4K miles on it. 1 owner and perfectly maintained (I have known the guy and they bike since he bought it). He is asking $9500. I think I may be able to get it down just a little more...but not that much more.

I know one thing is for sure, I would not abandon the other bikes if I got this one....that's not me at all. I give each ride its purpose. I guess you would figure that since I also got 2 trucks and 5 other cars to go with the 2 bikes.

oh yeah....believe it or not....one of the biggest issues on getting the Fatboy is where to put it.....I would have to spend a day or so making space in one of the garages somewhere.
 

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I have had Harleys, a 79 sporty 1000, an 02 fatboy, and a 03 duece. All were great bikes,it was the every time I turned around maintenance on the bikes. It was a constant vacuum on the wallet. I also had an 05 roadstar 1700. very similar bike to the harley, belt drive, separate transmission, air cooled. not near the maintenance to be done, and easier to do. Compared to the 1100 ACE I have now........well their is none, simply to maintain, no measuring and adjusting belts constantly. further between oil changes, etc. I do wish the Honda got the gas mileage the harley did though. cant have evrything I guess. so I will keep my Honda.
I appreciate all this insight....I really do cause I am on the fence about getting the Fatboy. I don't think the price is the issue.....it is an 03 anniversary edition with only 4K miles on it. 1 owner and perfectly maintained (I have known the guy and they bike since he bought it). He is asking $9500. I think I may be able to get it down just a little more...but not that much more.

I know one thing is for sure, I would not abandon the other bikes if I got this one....that's not me at all. I give each ride its purpose. I guess you would figure that since I also got 2 trucks and 5 other cars to go with the 2 bikes.

oh yeah....believe it or not....one of the biggest issues on getting the Fatboy is where to put it.....I would have to spend a day or so making space in one of the garages somewhere.
Lou; What Mr. Wilson said above is spot on. H/D's ask for a bit more maintenance than what you are currently riding. An oil change is two separate sumps, oil and primary. Both use different oil. You don't use tractor oil in an H/D like a lot of guys around here like putting in their Honda's. Oil changes every 5k miles or annually. Trans oil is also separate and is changed every 15k or every other year. Drive belt needs adjusting. With stock pipes it can be a PIA as you have to pull the muffler to more easily get to the adjusting bolts. There are factory pressed in bearings that occasionally need to be pulled and re-packed and re-torqued every so often also. A factory manual is a must have.
If you can do your own maintenance, great. If you turn it all in to have the dealer do, it can be a bit spendy depending on how much you ride. Most of us are somewhere in between and finding a quality independent mechanic is a god-send. Will the bike fall apart if you don't stay on top of your maintenance? I doubt it, but why have a bike like that if you're not going to take care of it. Too many bikes out there that are neglected as it is!
To me, the extra effort is worth it. I've ridden about every make and model there is out there and in my opinion, H/D's are by far the superior bike. BUT, there's a reason there's so many different makes and models out there, everyone has different likes, wants and needs.
I don't think 10k for an 03 Anniversary Special is a smoking deal, but it's not a bad one either. Hopefully if you show up with cash in hand the seller will let you take it our for a spin first. If after 15 - 20 miles you aren't grinning from ear to ear than walk away fro the deal. No sense dropping 10k on a bike that doesn't fully turn you on, Fatboys aren't for everyone. If you do feel the bike is for you, then I hope you'll enjoy it for years to come. I'll be interested to hear what all turns out.
 

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Got a 96 VT1100 that I love. I'm thinking of also getting an 03 Harley fatboy for another bike. Just wanted to get some thoughts on what anyone thinks. I thought about getting another bike for years now, but I never get serious. Then I thought it would always be a big HD like an electraglide or a streetglide. Now that I have waited this long, I discovered that I really don't do any real long distance riding, just a lot of riding a little at a time. So this 03 fatboy is for sale from a friend of mine and it only has 4K miles on it. Extremely clean, anniversary edition with the black and silver paint scheme. Dunno... just thinking of getting it for a cool toy and still riding my Kawasaki for work and my Shadow wherever inbetween.
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You can't go wrong with silver and black.
 

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Wow,

So Harley's are really that much of a pain to own as far as maintaining? Well now I am wondering......no matter how nice of a ride they are, I will always be somewhat pissed if it is going to be costing me that much more to have it.

Funny though just about all the friends I have are Harley riders and they never tell me about all this maintenance. My bro in law is on his second harley and he dont know **** on how to wrench anything. Funny I dont see him running for a lot of maintenance. He had his first sporty 10 years and put a ****load of miles on it without many problems far as I could remember. Got another close friend with an 03 V rod that doesn't do all that much to his either.

Gonna have to rethink this a bit now.
 

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I have a friend with a 2014 Streetglide. He just took it in for the 5K maintenance, and they charged him $400. If you follow the maintenance schedule for them it can get pricy. If you don't (.e.g. your friends) then you'll get a bike that will run for 25K and then die. It's the old adage...pay me now, or pay me later. If you are talented enough to perform 'all' of the required maintenance on a bike that complicated, then you are golden. On newer Harleys, if major **** breaks you need special tools (in a lot of cases) to fix them right. Just another thing to think about. Don't get me wrong, I love Harleys, but if I had one I could also afford to pay Harley to maintain it. I don't think I am talented enough to do everything, but I could do most of it myself...with the right tools.
 

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Go get it man!!!! Fat boys are fun rides, easy to customize, and hold their value. They are easy to work on, and parts and accessories are every where. Even if you don't like it you can get your money back by reselling it, but I doubt that would be the case. The 2003 anniversary editions are also dependable. A friend of mine put over 78000 trouble free miles on his, then he traded it in for a new one, said he was ready for something new. Which is funny to me cause he got a soft tail deluxe, which is exactly the same frame and suspension. LOL
 

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Funny though just about all the friends I have are Harley riders and they never tell me about all this maintenance. My bro in law is on his second harley and he dont know **** on how to wrench anything. Funny I dont see him running for a lot of maintenance. He had his first sporty 10 years and put a ****load of miles on it without many problems far as I could remember. Got another close friend with an 03 V rod that doesn't do all that much to his either.

sporty's and Vrods are nothing like fat boys, The bigger bikes like the soft tails require more attention. Not necessarily action, but preride checks need to be thorough. If you find a problem at that time don't ride it until it is fixed. Other than that the fat boy is a great ride man!!!
 

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In my experience, the HD maintenance costs are no more than the VT1100C I sold. I do my own maintenance and find the Fatboy easy to work on. No mystery, and the TC88 engine has been around for a long time. With 4k miles on the clock, might want to check the tire age.
 

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Lou; What Mr. Wilson said above is spot on. H/D's ask for a bit more maintenance than what you are currently riding. An oil change is two separate sumps, oil and primary. Both use different oil. You don't use tractor oil in an H/D like a lot of guys around here like putting in their Honda's. Oil changes every 5k miles or annually. Trans oil is also separate and is changed every 15k or every other year. Drive belt needs adjusting. With stock pipes it can be a PIA as you have to pull the muffler to more easily get to the adjusting bolts. There are factory pressed in bearings that occasionally need to be pulled and re-packed and re-torqued every so often also. A factory manual is a must have.
If you can do your own maintenance, great. If you turn it all in to have the dealer do, it can be a bit spendy depending on how much you ride. Most of us are somewhere in between and finding a quality independent mechanic is a god-send. Will the bike fall apart if you don't stay on top of your maintenance? I doubt it, but why have a bike like that if you're not going to take care of it. Too many bikes out there that are neglected as it is!
To me, the extra effort is worth it. I've ridden about every make and model there is out there and in my opinion, H/D's are by far the superior bike. BUT, there's a reason there's so many different makes and models out there, everyone has different likes, wants and needs.
I don't think 10k for an 03 Anniversary Special is a smoking deal, but it's not a bad one either. Hopefully if you show up with cash in hand the seller will let you take it our for a spin first. If after 15 - 20 miles you aren't grinning from ear to ear than walk away fro the deal. No sense dropping 10k on a bike that doesn't fully turn you on, Fatboys aren't for everyone. If you do feel the bike is for you, then I hope you'll enjoy it for years to come. I'll be interested to hear what all turns out.
Are maintenance intervals different on the big twins vs. the sportster? Engine oil every 5k, primary/transmission 10k. And you can use HD Syn 3 in all 3 holes on a big twin.

Adjusting the drive belt is no different than adjusting the chain on a Honda. Of course, shaft drive would be different. On the HD you would have both the belt drive and the primary chain to adjust.

Wow,

So Harley's are really that much of a pain to own as far as maintaining? Well now I am wondering......no matter how nice of a ride they are, I will always be somewhat pissed if it is going to be costing me that much more to have it.

Funny though just about all the friends I have are Harley riders and they never tell me about all this maintenance. My bro in law is on his second harley and he dont know **** on how to wrench anything. Funny I dont see him running for a lot of maintenance. He had his first sporty 10 years and put a ****load of miles on it without many problems far as I could remember. Got another close friend with an 03 V rod that doesn't do all that much to his either.

Gonna have to rethink this a bit now.
Sportsters are a bit different than the big twins. Older (EVO?) engine and only 2 holes for oil. Mine has zero issues with 11k. Just had the 10k service done by the dealer for $350. May do the 15k myself, if I buy a lift of some sort.

The asking price is about right per KBB if the bike is fuel injected.

One advantage I have found with the HD is the availability of parts and accessories. Much easier to find something compared to my ACE. Not necessarily cheap, but available.
 

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In my experience, the HD maintenance costs are no more than the VT1100C I sold. I do my own maintenance and find the Fatboy easy to work on. No mystery, and the TC88 engine has been around for a long time. With 4k miles on the clock, might want to check the tire age.
Thanks for sharing.....also to all the guys here....but you got a fatboy just about the same vintage as what I will be looking out....so your bell rings a little louder:D

I hear ya on the tires.....was wondering that myself.

One thing though, I'm not considering buying from a stranger. I have know this guy longer than he has had the bike and we work together. We also went riding together a few times but that was way back when he first got his new 03 fatboy and I had just bought my used 96 shadow.

I'm going to try and find some HD forums to peek at and see what all they say on things they experience as well. On a good note though.....I checked with my insurance and it is not bad at all to add this bike to the policy. I pay $124 now per year for the 2 bikes I have with the shadow being on full coverage. Adding an 03 fatboy at full coverage for a year with the other 2 bikes takes it to $282. Not that bad.
 

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Wow,

So Harley's are really that much of a pain to own as far as maintaining? Well now I am wondering......no matter how nice of a ride they are, I will always be somewhat pissed if it is going to be costing me that much more to have it.

Funny though just about all the friends I have are Harley riders and they never tell me about all this maintenance. My bro in law is on his second harley and he dont know **** on how to wrench anything. Funny I dont see him running for a lot of maintenance. He had his first sporty 10 years and put a ****load of miles on it without many problems far as I could remember. Got another close friend with an 03 V rod that doesn't do all that much to his either.

Gonna have to rethink this a bit now.
I guess I came across wrong Lou. To clarify; on your Honda when you change your oil, it's one plug, one oil, and it seems that a lot of people like putting cheap tractor oil in it. You don't do that with an H/D. Most people change oil and trans fluid. Two separate oils. Most use synthetic. If a bike has a drive belt, it's going to need adjusting, doesn't matter what brand. I know on a Fatboy you have to pull the muffler to be able to adjust it. I don't know if that's the same on a Honda. What Harryc said isn't true I don't believe. If you don't change its oil, I'm sure the bike will continue to run for a long time to come, but why ignore maintenance on a 10k - 15k bike? Taking bikes in to H/D for regularly scheduled maintenance can get pricey, but I'm willing to bet taking a Honda or any other bike I for maintenance would be as much. There's an industry standard for shop labor, doesn't matter what brand you roll in.
It's rare to hear about parts breaking or wearing out on H/D's, just as you don't hear about it too much on any other brand. Years back I had an 89 Springer Softail that I had cammed, and valved and all kinds of other stuff done to it. Never ran dependably afterwards. All the other bikes I've had, I pretty much left stock except for replacing the stock carbs with S&S's and a little dress up here and there. I did have to replace a rear bearing on my last Glide. That's it.
Maybe there's a thought process difference. I know for me anyway, I'll probably take better care of a higher dollar vehicle than a lower cost one. Someone goes out and earns enough to buy a 20k -30k bike they'll probably obsess over the little things with it more so than a 2k beater.
At the end of the day though, I believe that an H/D next to a Honda, the Honda can be maintained a little cheaper. Your maintenance intervals will be about the same though. Part for part, I doubt there's much difference. Never needed any "special" tools. Reliability: I doubt there's much difference. There's going to be a lemon roll of the ship from Japan every now and then just as there'll be one roll out of Milwaukee. Only difference will be that H/D owners won't celebrate hearing about the bum Honda as much as the Honda owners will revel in hearing about the bad H/D.


Go get it man!!!! Fat boys are fun rides, easy to customize, and hold their value. They are easy to work on, and parts and accessories are every where. Even if you don't like it you can get your money back by reselling it, but I doubt that would be the case. The 2003 anniversary editions are also dependable. A friend of mine put over 78000 trouble free miles on his, then he traded it in for a new one, said he was ready for something new. Which is funny to me cause he got a soft tail deluxe, which is exactly the same frame and suspension. LOL
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