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I have a shadow 600 vlx, that i bought thinking i was going to ride it for a while and get used to how it felt then trade it in for something bigger. Well long story short i got the shaft from the dealer. So here i am with the 600. I got a littel crazy with it, i will be posting pics soon. Basically i got out my torch and welder and went to town. I figure if i am stuck with it i might as well have fun with it... right? But i still have that little problem of the 600, it just isnt powerful enough for me, i want more. but i am so far into this bike i cant just sell it and get a new one, i need to make the most out of this one. Unless of course someone hase some suggestions for me??? So, is it possible to swap out a 600 for an 1100 with a vlx? ok thank you and i hope to hear back from some of yall!
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Sure, it's possible, but I"d be willing to bet that you wouldn't be willing to
spend the amount of money or work it would be necessary to do it.

The bike would have to be completely back-halfed, since the 1100 is a shaft drive and the VLX is chain.
You'd have to completely rework the swing arm, weld in braces for shock (convert from inside mono-shock to dual outside shocks).
You'd have to open the engine compartment up and raise the frame,
reweld the motor mounts.
Then you're gonna have to weld on tabs for all the plastic/metal covers.
You'll have to convert from a mechanical brake to a hydraulic brake,
which means you'll also have to change wheels and ensure proper clearance.

You'll most likely have to put a larger fuel tank on it because an 1100 drinks
almost twice as much fuel as the 600 for the same distance.
You'd likely only get about 60-70 miles out of a tank with the stock VLX tank.

You'd probably have to upgrade the front springs to accommodate the added weight.

To make a change like that, you'd be looking at $5000 minimum and
probably 200 - 300 hours of work.
It's just not feasible when you could go out and buy a used 1100 for 1/3 of
what you could do the conversion for...

If you want to wake the VLX up, get a good set of aftermarket pipes on it,
put in a good free-flowing air filter, rejet it and get it tuned, and do
the timing advance mod.
You'll be surprised at just how much that will wake the VLX up.
If done and tuned correctly, the VLX will stay up with an stock 1100.
It won't out run it, but it will stay on it's tail.

If you want to go further, pull the heads off and get them shaved.
Have the valve seats and valves cut to dual angles (45* and 55*).
That will raise the compression ratio a little and give the air stream
a little less resistance making the bend in the port. You could get
away with doing the head work for a few hundred bucks.
Be prepared to run mid-grade or high octane fuel if you do the head work.
The VLX has already got a 9.2:1 ratio and as soon as it starts coming
up, it's gonna need high octane to keep from detonating.

I'd suggest doing the four "small" mods and forget the idea of putting an 1100 in it.
They provide a very noticeable difference in the way the bike runs.
The only thing past that without getting in to major money is head work,
and most people aren't even going to be willing to do that.
 
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litnin said:
Sure, it's possible, but I"d be willing to bet that you wouldn't be willing to
spend the amount of money or work it would be necessary to do it.
+1

Anything's possible, but getting there can be a real chore.
 

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chornbe said:
litnin said:
Sure, it's possible, but I"d be willing to bet that you wouldn't be willing to
spend the amount of money or work it would be necessary to do it.
+1

Anything's possible, but getting there can be a real chore.
+2

When I was growing up we built rockcrawlers out of old Willys Jeeps and IH Scouts. Scouts actually came with V8's so swapping one that had the weak 4 cylinder was no big deal. Flat-fender Jeeps took a lot of work. Since they were just for off-roading no one cared much how it looked, as long as it held up to the abuse. But if you're doing a street bike, unless you are really into "rat rides" then it would be a LOT of work to make it look decent.
 
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There would be no boss hogs
no V8 powered VW's
no customs, two wheel, four wheeled, or any kind what so EVER if someone , somewhere had not said..WHAT IF!
 

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yeah it can be done. gonzo has done a mono shock changeover on an 1100 and we both have done a sngle carb setup on 1100's.

i'd get an 1100 motor trans assembly

you'll likely have to make the frame taller

fab some mounts(the 1100 is solid mounted)

put the 1100 swing arm onto the 600 frame not sure how that would work may need to move the pivot from one to the other to get the pivot right

if you go monoshock on the rear you'll need to beef up the 1100 swing arm to take the new shock

then there's the wheel issue not sure of how much space the 600 has relative to the 1100.

all in all i think litnin is right 200-300 hours and you'd be golden with a completely custom ride that oughtta be a blast to ride.
 

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If only Honda would build an 1100 - 1300 VLX style soft tail..... :roll:

Build it and the will come.....
 

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I have a shadow 600 vlx, that i bought thinking i was going to ride it for a while and get used to how it felt then trade it in for something bigger. Well long story short i got the shaft from the dealer. So here i am with the 600. I got a littel crazy with it, i will be posting pics soon. Basically i got out my torch and welder and went to town. I figure if i am stuck with it i might as well have fun with it... right? But i still have that little problem of the 600, it just isnt powerful enough for me, i want more. but i am so far into this bike i cant just sell it and get a new one, i need to make the most out of this one. Unless of course someone hase some suggestions for me??? So, is it possible to swap out a 600 for an 1100 with a vlx? ok thank you and i hope to hear back from some of yall!
Adam
Yes it is possible vt1100 honda motor is chain driven it's not that much work if u have a welder grinder etc. Shop it wont cost u much
 

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SURE you can !!!
Think big.
 

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The O.P.'s situation back in 2007 is exactly the kind of cut first, ask questions later that I was thinking about when I posted on that "Shadows best for beginner" thread, "please don't create another one of those abortions".

Like I said there, it seems like there are way too many guys who will keep cutting until something doesn't work, then come here and ask this kind of question.

Guys with skills like you and Kris Carr, guys with the vision and skills to get it done, already know what they want and don't come asking advice. This forum has plenty of painful to read threads like this. This is why I strike a discouraging tone, not because I don't like customs, and not because I'm claiming to have the skills.

At least we can be happy that these poor old, vivisected bikes come back as soda cans and Harbor Freight tools.

Oh, and I blame the "respond to decade old thread" thing on the "recommended reading" section. That has suckered me more than once.
 

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You know what else is shaft drive? A Hemi. Can I put a Hemi in an 1100? Im talking a real Hemi, 426 baby!! And add a super charger! And a flux capacitor! [email protected]#% Yes!!!!
 

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Give a man/child a welder and an idea. One of my heros.
All the stories don't even start to paint the whole picture.

 

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What could possibly go wrong?
 

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Litnin' sure was a very informative guy but we were allowed to be a little rowdy under the original forum rules compared to somewhat PC version we have now. Timeouts were the norm. :D

So are we convinced that another one bites the dust?
 

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Sure, it's possible, but I"d be willing to bet that you wouldn't be willing to
spend the amount of money or work it would be necessary to do it.

The bike would have to be completely back-halfed, since the 1100 is a shaft drive and the VLX is chain.
You'd have to completely rework the swing arm, weld in braces for shock (convert from inside mono-shock to dual outside shocks).
You'd have to open the engine compartment up and raise the frame,
reweld the motor mounts.
Then you're gonna have to weld on tabs for all the plastic/metal covers.
You'll have to convert from a mechanical brake to a hydraulic brake,
which means you'll also have to change wheels and ensure proper clearance.

You'll most likely have to put a larger fuel tank on it because an 1100 drinks
almost twice as much fuel as the 600 for the same distance.
You'd likely only get about 60-70 miles out of a tank with the stock VLX tank.

You'd probably have to upgrade the front springs to accommodate the added weight.

To make a change like that, you'd be looking at $5000 minimum and
probably 200 - 300 hours of work.
It's just not feasible when you could go out and buy a used 1100 for 1/3 of
what you could do the conversion for...

If you want to wake the VLX up, get a good set of aftermarket pipes on it,
put in a good free-flowing air filter, rejet it and get it tuned, and do
the timing advance mod.
You'll be surprised at just how much that will wake the VLX up.
If done and tuned correctly, the VLX will stay up with an stock 1100.
It won't out run it, but it will stay on it's tail.

If you want to go further, pull the heads off and get them shaved.
Have the valve seats and valves cut to dual angles (45* and 55*).
That will raise the compression ratio a little and give the air stream
a little less resistance making the bend in the port. You could get
away with doing the head work for a few hundred bucks.
Be prepared to run mid-grade or high octane fuel if you do the head work.
The VLX has already got a 9.2:1 ratio and as soon as it starts coming
up, it's gonna need high octane to keep from detonating.

I'd suggest doing the four "small" mods and forget the idea of putting an 1100 in it.
They provide a very noticeable difference in the way the bike runs.
The only thing past that without getting in to major money is head work,
and most people aren't even going to be willing to do that.
Don't forget the sprocket change. Your suggestions make it go faster. The 40 tooth sprocket makes you want to go faster.
 
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