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THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE FEDERAL CALL TO ACTION FOR ALL MOTORCYCLE RIDERS...A Joint release from the MRF and AMA... SHARE THIS WITH EVERY RIDER YOU KNOW IN EVERY STATE. For Georgia Riders, you all know we at ABATE of Georgia have been fighting against these unconstitutional discriminatory stops here in our home state since 2009. With a Federal stranglehold on the dollars that fund these checkpoints we would soon seen the end of this practice. Please if you have time call ,email or mail your FEDERAL SENATORS TODAY...
Bipartisan Senate Bill would Ban Federal Funding for Motorcycle-Only Checkpoints
January 8, 2015
MRF media contact: Jeff Hennie Phone: 202-725-5471
E-mail: [email protected]
AMA media contact: James Holter Phone: (614) 856-1900, ext. 1280
E-mail: [email protected]
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
WASHINGTON, D.C. – A bipartisan bill introduced today by U.S. Sens. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Joe Manchin (D- W.Va.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) would prohibit the use of federal funds in establishing motorcycle-only checkpoints.
Specifically, the “Stop Motorcycle Checkpoint Funding Act”, Senate Bill .127 would restrict the Secretary of Transportation from granting funds to any government entity for a program to check helmet use or to create checkpoints for an operator of a motorcycle or a passenger on a motorcycle. The American Motorcyclist Association and the Motorcycle Riders Foundation fully support the bill.
“Motorcycle-only checkpoints are discriminatory, forcing riders and their passengers to do something not asked of other citizens, simply because we choose to travel on two wheels, or three, instead of four,” said Wayne Allard, AMA vice president for government relations. “The AMA believes the money used for these operations could be better spent supporting programs that conduct rider education, reduce distracted driving and encourage motorist awareness of motorcycles.”
“We are excited to work on this most important issue,” said Jeff Hennie, vice president of government relations and public affairs for the Motorcycle Riders Foundation. “It is imperative that we end the discriminatory act of motorcycle only checkpoints.”
Motorcycle riders already are subject to state registration, inspection, licensing and helmet laws and must stop at sobriety check points like all other motorists.
The MRF and AMA have fought motorcycle-only checkpoints since the state of New York announced plans to set up 15 of them in 2008 to stop riders on their way summer motorcycling events.
“Evidence suggests that motorcycle-only checkpoints do not effectively reduce motorcycle injuries or fatalities and do not address the factors that are the main contributors to motorcycle accidents,” the senators wrote in a press release about the bill. “Accordingly, NHTSA does not list the practice in its own 2013 Highway Safety Countermeasure Guide for State Highway Offices, which details policies and activities that the agency considers effective at reducing crash injuries and fatalities.”
States use funding from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to pay for the checkpoints, so federal legislation can halt the practice.
If passed, this federal bill will cut off NHTSA funding and ensure that riders across the country are safeguarded from these ineffective and discriminatory stops.
“Using motorcyclists tax dollars to discriminate and harass them with mandatory roadside checkpoints in the name of safety is offensive and just plain wrong. No one is more aware of the condition of the motorcycle than the person riding it,” Hennie said.
“If the NHTSA truly is interested in motorcyclists’ safety, it would fund proven programs that help prevent crashes, rather than these checkpoints,” Allard said.
California, Louisiana, Missouri, North Carolina, Illinois, New Hampshire and Virginia have passed legislation curbing motorcycle-only checkpoints
 

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Well that's both interesting and disturbing. I wasn't aware of those types of laws. Glad to hear they're possibly not going to be funded anymore if that bill passes.
 

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Just before seeing your post I sent an email (provided by the AMA) to my congressmen. They need to hear our voices. Thanks for posting this.
 

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Y`all KNOW I`m a Freedom Fighter!!!
I pass on all legislation contrary to our health, wealth and well being ;)

Join the MRO of your choice, Be informed and have our voices heard!!!

You can act on the alert, or not
Most do not care... UNTIL ITS TOO LATE!!!!
Your choice
 

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I'm not sure I really have a problem with it... If your bike, gear, and paperwork are in good order and you are sober...what's the problem as long as it is not a daily thing. Several shops around here sell those "helmets" that clearly say "novelty item, not legal for street use" or whatever on a sticker inside them. People who choose to exercise their "freedom" and wear those cost all of us in insurance rates when they get killed, or when they ride around on some home made POS with a car tire on the back and only 1 brake working. Whatever, we all sacrifice a little freedom for the greater good in a thousand different ways. No biggee to me.
 

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I am glad to see my two senators at the forefront on this even though I disagree with both Ayotte and Shaheen ( especially) on many other things but I will give Jeanee kudos .. to paraphrase her.. We don't have automobile only checkpoints to see if someones tires are improperly inflated so why are we singling out motorcyclists

actually here is her statement right here


http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/e4bd305758a541ccb03edb3000caca3b/NH--Motorcycle-Riders/
 

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I am glad to see my two senators at the forefront on this even though I disagree with both Ayotte and Shaheen ( especially) on many other things but I will give Jeanee kudos .. to paraphrase her.. We don't have automobile only checkpoints to see if someones tires are improperly inflated so why are we singling out motorcyclists
Right on Dave, I wish the NY Senators were as involved.
 

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I'm not sure I really have a problem with it... If your bike, gear, and paperwork are in good order and you are sober...what's the problem as long as it is not a daily thing. Several shops around here sell those "helmets" that clearly say "novelty item, not legal for street use" or whatever on a sticker inside them. People who choose to exercise their "freedom" and wear those cost all of us in insurance rates when they get killed, or when they ride around on some home made POS with a car tire on the back and only 1 brake working. Whatever, we all sacrifice a little freedom for the greater good in a thousand different ways. No biggee to me. UHQUOTE

^^^ I do not care to be inspected just because I`m riding a motorcycle...
My Bike is stock and there is NO REASON for me to be detained because I`m riding a motorcycle...
I have no objection to checkpoints for ALL vehicles, but Bikes ONLY? Yes I`m NOT going for that!!!!

"Most do not care, UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE!!!"
 

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Unfortunately we threw 'probable cause' into the toilet when we stood by and allowed law enforcement to conduct random traffic stops for drunk driving and seat belts. Most have decided a loss of freedom is worth a non existent gain in security. Don't get me started on the TSA, DHS...:roll:

While I hope these type of 'stops' are ruled unconstitutional/unfunded, it wouldn't surprise me if they aren't. Welcome to 21st century America.
 

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While I agree with the bill, the AMA has been a little overhyper about the situation. I am only curious how big of an issue it really is, not trying to start an argument. So, me coming from one of the states that has already ruled MOCs illegal, how many riders on the forum have ever been stopped by one of these checkpoints? What does it entail?
 

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howdy, I don't want to discuss it or argue it , but, I don't think anyone should be stopped unless an infraction of the law regarding that vehicle has been observed.

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I'm not sure I really have a problem with it... If your bike, gear, and paperwork are in good order and you are sober...what's the problem as long as it is not a daily thing. Several shops around here sell those "helmets" that clearly say "novelty item, not legal for street use" or whatever on a sticker inside them. People who choose to exercise their "freedom" and wear those cost all of us in insurance rates when they get killed, or when they ride around on some home made POS with a car tire on the back and only 1 brake working. Whatever, we all sacrifice a little freedom for the greater good in a thousand different ways. No biggee to me.
Yeah, next thing you know they will be frisking guys with facial hair, because guys with facial hair commit crimes. I'm with the whole innocent until proven guilty thing. If you didn't see me do anything wrong, then don't f*** with me.
 

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I'm not sure I really have a problem with it... If your bike, gear, and paperwork are in good order and you are sober...what's the problem as long as it is not a daily thing. Several shops around here sell those "helmets" that clearly say "novelty item, not legal for street use" or whatever on a sticker inside them. People who choose to exercise their "freedom" and wear those cost all of us in insurance rates when they get killed, or when they ride around on some home made POS with a car tire on the back and only 1 brake working. Whatever, we all sacrifice a little freedom for the greater good in a thousand different ways. No biggee to me. UHQUOTE

^^^ I do not care to be inspected just because I`m riding a motorcycle...
My Bike is stock and there is NO REASON for me to be detained because I`m riding a motorcycle...
I have no objection to checkpoints for ALL vehicles, but Bikes ONLY? Yes I`m NOT going for that!!!!

"Most do not care, UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE!!!"
Don't you think these got on the books in the first place because of the actions of irresponsible bikers? Or do you think that there is some secret plot against us? If it's the former then shouldn't your concern be with irresponsible bikers and not with a public that may be getting tired of them?

We lose credibility when we wrap ourselves (dubiously) in freedom to protect irresponsible members of our "group". Using words like "detained" and stuff like that unattributed quote just looks kinda hysterical to an outsider probably, as if we think riding a motorcycle is up there with freedom of speech or something.

Anyway, to each his own I guess. I knew my opinion wouldn't be popular, but I do respect where all of you are coming from even if I don't really understand your fervor. I guess I'm just not an old school kinda biker. It has never been about freedom or making any kind of statement or anything else. It is just basically a pastime I enjoy...lol
 

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Don't you think these got on the books in the first place because of the actions of irresponsible bikers? Or do you think that there is some secret plot against us? If it's the former then shouldn't your concern be with irresponsible bikers and not with a public that may be getting tired of them?

We lose credibility when we wrap ourselves (dubiously) in freedom to protect irresponsible members of our "group". Using words like "detained" and stuff like that unattributed quote just looks kinda hysterical to an outsider probably, as if we think riding a motorcycle is up there with freedom of speech or something.

Anyway, to each his own I guess. I knew my opinion wouldn't be popular, but I do respect where all of you are coming from even if I don't really understand your fervor. I guess I'm just not an old school kinda biker. It has never been about freedom or making any kind of statement or anything else. It is just basically a pastime I enjoy...lol
I understand where you are coming from.

Is this also why the FBI thinks they have a right to blanket rape the public's cell phone of all its data any time they walk outside their home?
 

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I understand where you are coming from.

Is this also why the FBI thinks they have a right to blanket rape the public's cell phone of all its data any time they walk outside their home?
I guess a little thing called 9/11 is the reason there. I don't really know where we should draw the line on that stuff. We want our freedom, but on the other hand we don't want stuff like Paris this week. I think we will figure it out--I hope, I guess--and that we can have enough of our freedom and still be able to catch these murderous *******s before they hurt people.
 

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While I agree with the bill, the AMA has been a little overhyper about the situation. I am only curious how big of an issue it really is, not trying to start an argument. So, me coming from one of the states that has already ruled MOCs illegal, how many riders on the forum have ever been stopped by one of these checkpoints? What does it entail?
I have. Leaving a bike rally. They checked my license and was really close to my face while I was talking to see if they could smell any alcohol. Wasn't a big deal, but they stopped every bike while letting every cage drive on through. That, I thought was a bunch of crap.
 
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