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I feel like a trader. I went to the Harley Store today to pay for my Rider Course. Then I was headed to Honda to check out some Shadows. I didn't make it that far. I fell in love with a Harley. The Harley Softail Slim. Sorry Guys.

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Bike is bike is bike is bike. They all good. The very best bike is the one you are ridding on any given day. Ride safe, far, and often.
 

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I feel like a trader. I went to the Harley Store today to pay for my Rider Course. Then I was headed to Honda to check out some Shadows. I didn't make it that far. I fell in love with a Harley. The Harley Softail Slim. Sorry Guys.

Its alot more but wow I love it. I have raised my kids and its just time for me to spoil me. LOL

traitor* and a lot* in the next post Harleys are nice bikes but I don't know why you would post this in a shadow forum?
 

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Well, since you came to a Honda Owner Group (HOG) after 7 posts to tell us you bought a Harley instead of a Honda, you shouldn't mind if we critique your decision, right?

Where to start...motor. The HD has a Big Twin twin cam in it, 1687cc's minimum.

Honda doesn't make anything V Twin that big anymore, but if there were a leftover VTX 1800 at a Honda dealer, I promise you it would be faster, nastier, tourquier, more reliable and less expensive to run and maintain.

Even the 1300 Stateside or Fury would be as fast/quick or very close to it.

The Softail with stock exhaust is no louder than the Honda 1800. Vance and Hines each of them and the sound Honda will scare more people than the Harley...that VTX 1800 is a monster.

Suspension...hopefully you are 180lbs or less; otherwise you will find the Softail suspension inadequate and will have to upgrade those (pricey) trick shocks. Even when tweaked, Softails are the least comfortable platform HD makes.

But yes, Softails all look cool, all 564 variations they make of the platform...nobody "nicklebacks" (my euphemism, you can use it) themselves better than HD...there are waymore Softail models than there were Shadow models, for example.

So, you are buying a low-powered, expensive (in every way measurable) imitation of a Harley Davidson motorcycle...a twin cam motor with a huge list of defects in its design and a truly uncomfortable rear suspension with a decent front end, thanks to Showa (Japan).

Obviously a poor decision on the metrics.

Harleys are sold by the creation of yearning for a classic American Motorcycle and the wistful desire to relive a simpler time.

And for that experience, you will pay. Oh yes, you will pay.

Harleys are wonderful old tractors wrapped up in great Marketing & Advertising.

You'll feel cool and superior and have a sense of prestige and rebel status every time you tool down your street on that baby.

Honda doesn't make anything like a HD Softail.

Personally, I'd buy a Dyna before a Softail in a heartbeat...and it would be a carb fed Evo, not a TC. But that's just me.

But in terms of a good comparison, you should go ride a Victory before you buy a Harley....Victory's 106 motor is simply a superior motor to the TC 103.

Have fun!
 

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Well, since you came to a Honda Owner Group (HOG) after 7 posts to tell us you bought a Harley instead of a Honda, you shouldn't mind if we critique your decision, right?

Where to start...motor. The HD has a Big Twin twin cam in it, 1687cc's minimum.

Honda doesn't make anything V Twin that big anymore, but if there were a leftover VTX 1800 at a Honda dealer, I promise you it would be faster, nastier, tourquier, more reliable and less expensive to run and maintain.

Even the 1300 Stateside or Fury would be as fast/quick or very close to it.

The Softail with stock exhaust is no louder than the Honda 1800. Vance and Hines each of them and the sound Honda will scare more people than the Harley...that VTX 1800 is a monster.

Suspension...hopefully you are 180lbs or less; otherwise you will find the Softail suspension inadequate and will have to upgrade those (pricey) trick shocks. Even when tweaked, Softails are the least comfortable platform HD makes.

But yes, Softails all look cool, all 564 variations they make of the platform...nobody "nicklebacks" (my euphemism, you can use it) themselves better than HD...there are waymore Softail models than there were Shadow models, for example.

So, you are buying a low-powered, expensive (in every way measurable) imitation of a Harley Davidson motorcycle...a twin cam motor with a huge list of defects in its design and a truly uncomfortable rear suspension with a decent front end, thanks to Showa (Japan).

Obviously a poor decision on the metrics.

Harleys are sold by the creation of yearning for a classic American Motorcycle and the wistful desire to relive a simpler time.

And for that experience, you will pay. Oh yes, you will pay.

Harleys are wonderful old tractors wrapped up in great Marketing & Advertising.

You'll feel cool and superior and have a sense of prestige and rebel status every time you tool down your street on that baby.

Honda doesn't make anything like a HD Softail.

Personally, I'd buy a Dyna before a Softail in a heartbeat...and it would be a carb fed Evo, not a TC. But that's just me.

But in terms of a good comparison, you should go ride a Victory before you buy a Harley....Victory's 106 motor is simply a superior motor to the TC 103.

Have fun!
Wow, you truly have no clue what you're talking about do you? 3/4 of your points are complete bull$hit and the other 1/4 sounds like something you found with google.
 

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Did you buy it? It will cost you at least 5k more than a 750 Shadow, if I rememeber right.,
Considering it's over twice the size I'd sure hope so.
 

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I feel like a trader. I went to the Harley Store today to pay for my Rider Course. Then I was headed to Honda to check out some Shadows. I didn't make it that far. I fell in love with a Harley. The Harley Softail Slim. Sorry Guys.

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That's a nice looking scoot. I would buy it. Haven't searched it out but does it come with a solo seat only?

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Wow, you truly have no clue what you're talking about do you? 3/4 of your points are complete bull$hit and the other 1/4 sounds like something you found with google.
Where I come from, if you're going to call "bs", you're supposed to back it up immediately or zip it....that goes whether you're in the Military or a televised Debate or a Bar on a Friday night.

I stand by everything I said. You are welcome to point out the alleged shortcomings in my critique. If you are able.



"WHY HARLEY?"
Here's a great video from the Harley Davidson web site that makes my main point...Harley is selling dreams. Priceless (expensive, hand crafted by robots) dreams of days gone by. HD is a great selling machine.

Why Harley-Davidson? | Harley-Davidson USA
 

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Where I come from, if you're going to call "bs", you're supposed to back it up immediately or zip it....that goes whether you're in the Military or a televised Debate or a Bar on a Friday night.

I stand by everything I said. You are welcome to point out the alleged shortcomings in my critique. If you are able.
Oh boy, in comes the internet bad a$$..

I guess I've got some spare time before bed so I'll waste some humoring you...

Well, since you came to a Honda Owner Group (HOG) after 7 posts to tell us you bought a Harley instead of a Honda, you shouldn't mind if we critique your decision, right?

Where to start...motor. The HD has a Big Twin twin cam in it, 1687cc's minimum.

Honda doesn't make anything V Twin that big anymore, but if there were a leftover VTX 1800 at a Honda dealer, I promise you it would be faster, nastier, tourquier, more reliable and less expensive to run and maintain.

Even the 1300 Stateside or Fury would be as fast/quick or very close to it.

Nice to see we're buying Cruisers for speed now. You're probably the same person that comes out crying you bought a cruiser to cruise with when someone claims their bikes faster than yours.

The Softail with stock exhaust is no louder than the Honda 1800. Vance and Hines each of them and the sound Honda will scare more people than the Harley...that VTX 1800 is a monster.

That's complete opinion, and quite the bad one at that. Funny how every metric rider tries to get their bike sounding like a Harley, but you think the Honda sounds better. Key word, "think".

Suspension...hopefully you are 180lbs or less; otherwise you will find the Softail suspension inadequate and will have to upgrade those (pricey) trick shocks. Even when tweaked, Softails are the least comfortable platform HD makes.

More ignorant B.S. The Softail is one of the most comfortable platforms HD makes. But I guess being over 180lbs and with only 42k mi on mine I wouldn't really know that would I..


But yes, Softails all look cool, all 564 variations they make of the platform...nobody "nicklebacks" (my euphemism, you can use it) themselves better than HD...there are waymore Softail models than there were Shadow models, for example.

564? Exaggerate much??

So, you are buying a low-powered, expensive (in every way measurable) imitation of a Harley Davidson motorcycle...a twin cam motor with a huge list of defects in its design and a truly uncomfortable rear suspension with a decent front end, thanks to Showa (Japan).

Living under a rock are we? Yeah, the TC had some problems when it first came out, but it is 2012 now, try to keep up..

Obviously a poor decision on the metrics.

Harleys are sold by the creation of yearning for a classic American Motorcycle and the wistful desire to relive a simpler time.

And for that experience, you will pay. Oh yes, you will pay.

About the same as you will pay for any other bike, of less quality..

Harleys are wonderful old tractors wrapped up in great Marketing & Advertising.

You'll feel cool and superior and have a sense of prestige and rebel status every time you tool down your street on that baby.

Honda doesn't make anything like a HD Softail.

At least you got something right.

Personally, I'd buy a Dyna before a Softail in a heartbeat...and it would be a carb fed Evo, not a TC. But that's just me.

That statement right there proves you know nothing about the Softail line.

But in terms of a good comparison, you should go ride a Victory before you buy a Harley....Victory's 106 motor is simply a superior motor to the TC 103.

Too bad most of the people that leave Harley to buy a Victory end up taking a loss on the Victory to go back to Harley in less than 2yrs.

Have fun!
 

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Seems to me that if someone likes a bike it makes very little difference if someone else does or not. I probably wouldn't buy a Harley but don't short sell them. They make really good bikes. There is nothing made that can compare to the options to customize them. They have stayed very true to their origions. Many companies make bikes that do things better but line them up and people notice the Harley. Nothing sounds like a Harley. BTW, that is a nice looking bike. Enjoy it and stick around to let us know how it works out.
 

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LOL WOW my head is spinning after that lecture. I do appreciate the constructive criticism though. Thanks :-D Uhm I didn't see the second page of comments. WOW didn't mean to start an argument. I do still like the looks of Shadows and lots of other bikes when I saw this bike though I don't know I just had to have it. I agree with gmck. We all love our bikes so lets just ride and enjoy. Oh and its not really able to carry a passenger. There is a small seat you can get but still no place for a passenger to put there feet. Not really looking to ride a passenger. Its just something for me to enjoy cruising around on when I am not working and I work alot. Again Thanks for All the comments and I love all the pictures of your bikes.
 

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That's a nice looking bike. I don't consider you a traitor. You chose a bike that jumped out at you as if to say, "I'm yours for the riding." I find it ludicrous that some folks have to jump on here and start bashing bike brands. Ride a Dyna over a Softail? Maybe...as it depends upon the model of the Softail. My FLSTC vibrates a bit but is as comfortable as my favorite recliner. My wife's Shadow VT1100C is one smooth ride. We just got back from a 2600 mile road trip to the East coast. My wife loves her bike; I love mine and we both appreciate anyone who rides...no matter the make/model. You ride that new ride and enjoy two-wheeling down the road. To me, that's what it is all about. As always and above all...ride safe.
 
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