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Big B
Anyone ever heard of/used them?
Traction Control Braking- TCB Brake Systems TM- Traction Control Brakes System

I know ppl that have them on their bikes, and like them. Wanted to get some feed back

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I wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole.
Brakes are designed the way they are for a reason. This device is nothing more than a damper that allows the fluid to flow somewhere OTHER THAN the brake caliper.
Personally I want to be in control of muy braking. I am perfectly capable of regulating the pressure as required to prevent a lockup in a panic stop situation. This device REDUCES the action of the brakes in a quick application situation. When I squeeze the lever I know how far and how hard I have to pull to make that stop.

Never ever will I put that on my bike.

on another note I also deactivated the ABS n my car.
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cl65ame said:
I wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole.
Brakes are designed the way they are for a reason. This device is nothing more than a damper that allows the fluid to flow somewhere OTHER THAN the brake caliper.
Personally I want to be in control of muy braking. I am perfectly capable of regulating the pressure as required to prevent a lockup in a panic stop situation. This device REDUCES the action of the brakes in a quick application situation. When I squeeze the lever I know how far and how hard I have to pull to make that stop.

Never ever will I put that on my bike.

on another note I also deactivated the ABS n my car.
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There's a contradictory statement if I ever did see one. You must be old school and one that doesn't like technological advancement.
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I was just reading about this product on this site:
Stop slides before they happen

I was actually going to start a topic on it but did a search and found this one. It is my understanding that this uses a small amount of compressed air to control the pressure that is applied to the front brake to prevent a lock-up.

If there is anyone who uses this $90 modification I would love for you to post as I am very curious about it.
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Pretender said:
I was just reading about this product on this site:
Stop slides before they happen

I was actually going to start a topic on it but did a search and found this one. It is my understanding that this uses a small amount of compressed air to control the pressure that is applied to the front brake to prevent a lock-up.

If there is anyone who uses this $90 modification I would love for you to post as I am very curious about it.
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There are a couple of ppl on another bike forum I belong to that use them and like them. I think I was the first to inquire about it here and to my knowledge, no one here has them.
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Big B said:
no one here has them.
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Well I am in the process of ordering one so I guess I will be the guinea pig.
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I am far from a person who doesn't like technical advancement especially in my job. I do however believe that I should be in control of my traction and braking. I know my limits and I know my bikes limits. My limits expire before the bikes do. I have locked my rear wheel (this weekend actually) and was able to control the bike to a safe stop. All of these "Advances" do 2 things 1) remove the "Driving" experience from the driver (and that why we do it) 2) try to correct for the shortcommings of the operator.

Frankly I prefer simple.
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Pretender said:
Well I am in the process of ordering one so I guess I will be the guinea pig.
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Be sure to let us know what you think. I might have to add one of these to my wish list.
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cl65ame said:
...Brakes are designed the way they are for a reason. ...
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You're right. The reason it is the best and most cost effective way to design them at the time.
If you think you can control thousands of brake applications and calculations per second better than ABS system can, you are mistaken. Driving with traction Control, Traction Control Braking, and ABS is different admittedly, and some of us have to relearn some things. The accidents that occur because of ABS is not because of the ABS system. Its because people don't understand how they work and end up doing things that negate or even countermand the effects of the ABS.

As to the particular system Big B, I've not heard of it, but I will also be interested in hearing feedback/reviews.
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cl65ame said:
All of these "Advances" do 2 things 1) remove the "Driving" experience from the driver (and that why we do it) 2) try to correct for the shortcommings of the operator.
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Before I say anything this isn't an attack and I am certainly not trying to start a war or anything, but you say things that I agree with and disagree at the same time.

About number 1, I actually DON'T ride for the adrenaline rush I get whenever someone pulls out right in front of me which makes me lock up my tires and skid. To me this isn't a wanted part of the "driving experience" I am looking for. A few days ago I locked up the brakes when 2 cars simultaneously pulled out in front of me, one going across my path and the other right turning in front of me which left me nowhere to go (the reason why I started looking into this product). I was unable to get my tire to spin again until it skidded for about 30 to 40 feet which to me is unacceptable. Which feeds into...

Number 2, possibly that is a rider shortcoming and I am looking for something to help me with that. Under no circumstances is locking up ones tires desirable. Braking and control works so much better when it doesn't happen.

If this simple thing can help me with that I am all for it.
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I was unable to get my tire to spin again until it skidded for about 30 to 40 feet which to me is unacceptable.
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I'm assuming it was your rear wheel that locked? I don't think this product will help with that unless you have rear disc brakes.
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ok guinea pig when you get this let us all know the outcome - this seems like a great little invention !! id like to know how well it works
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elfnyc said:
ok guinea pig when you get this let us all know the outcome - this seems like a great little invention !! id like to know how well it works
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Well after several emails back and forth with them today I am not going to order it after all due to the drum rear brakes. They don't recommend doing just the front. In fact his exact response was, "Occasionally people decide that they just want the front to have the upgrade which is nuts, but we will sell them just one."
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ok kewl

They don't recommend doing just the front Occasionally people decide that they just want the front to have the upgrade which is nuts, but we will sell them just one

ok i got ya didnt even think of that hahaha good to know
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