[k.nurali]

Hey Folks,
I wanna put on drag bars and mod pipes on my VT 800.

I've looked into few posts about it but still unsure whats best to do.
Hope you don't mind tipping/helping out

ok, so about drag bars:
I don't know what kinda risers to get, remember someone mentioned that least size is 5.5". (think it was Lang, love his bike btw.)
Would 6" or 8" work too?
Any suggestions on where to look for them?
Im thinking black risers with black bar, steel bolts.
Bar with a slight pull back.
Actually looking now at Langs bike, its pretty much how i would like mine to be.

Now, more complex is pipes idea i guess.
I would like to have a bit more rumble but not in favour to torque.
Think oftentimes bikes get crazy loud and loose power due to inadequate mods.
I did that with my XS, don't wanna repeat same experience
Is it possible at all or a bad idea?
I thought of using original headers with heat wrap and cut off stock mufflers to keep in case i wanna put it all back together. I imagine its a simple weld.
Im sure carbs would need re-adjustment and re-jetting, right?
Anyone done this before and wanna share experience?

Im live in Denmark, so shipping from US is kinda steep price since we have to pay pretty high import tax, which kills for me idea of complete set of headers and mufflers.

Anyway,
thought i would share my thinking and see what clever pips got to say.
Thanks!
N

 

[Furball Zen]

Whats a drag bar?

 

[7xclm]

Ebay has them try the link below.

motocycle drag bars | eBay

 

[balloonot]

FBZ drag bars are actually the correct name for the broomstick style bars.

Drag bars look good on 1st gens imo. I had some before I went to apes on my bobber.

Can't help ya with risers persay, as mine are integrated in my upper trees. But 5 or 6 with a pull back of 1-2" should allow you to use your stock cables.

Pipes. I ended up using my stock head pipes and welded on 14" extensions with home made lolliepop baffles. I lost NO torq. Infact I do believe I gained it because she pulls like a muh-fkr...lmao. Drag pipes will kill torq as you know. So I would bring the pipes back to the middle of the rear swingarm.

Search my user name and you'll find my 2-3 build threads with a ****e load of pics.

Jetting. Assuming you are @ s/l (sea level) you won't need to rejet unless you are not using a stock style air filter. UNI,K&N will require rejetting. With that said my stock air fuel settings were 2.25 front and rear on the carbs. I'm at 3.25 (turns OUT) front and rear

The reason I essentially made my own pipes is because there is NO aftermarket pipes out there that I like. The Mac exhaust and Cobra exhaust are SOOOO fugly, imo. So I made my own and wrapped them.

 

[k.nurali]

FBZ drag bars are actually the correct name for the broomstick style bars.

Drag bars look good on 1st gens imo. I had some before I went to apes on my bobber.

Can't help ya with risers persay, as mine are integrated in my upper trees. But 5 or 6 with a pull back of 1-2" should allow you to use your stock cables.

Pipes. I ended up using my stock head pipes and welded on 14" extensions with home made lolliepop baffles. I lost NO torq. Infact I do believe I gained it because she pulls like a muh-fkr...lmao. Drag pipes will kill torq as you know. So I would bring the pipes back to the middle of the rear swingarm.

Search my user name and you'll find my 2-3 build threads with a ****e load of pics.

Jetting. Assuming you are @ s/l (sea level) you won't need to rejet unless you are not using a stock style air filter. UNI,K&N will require rejetting. With that said my stock air fuel settings were 2.25 front and rear on the carbs. I'm at 3.25 (turns OUT) front and rear

The reason I essentially made my own pipes is because there is NO aftermarket pipes out there that I like. The Mac exhaust and Cobra exhaust are SOOOO fugly, imo. So I made my own and wrapped them.

Thanks for detailed reply, appreciate your input!
Yeah drag bars and risers are somewhat easy, i was mostly reaching out for info about pipes.
Good to know what you did, ill checkout your builds for sure. Im at sea level so guess its good news with no re-jetting!
on your pipes: ill look at pic of course, but did you build mufflers too? Don't know what you mean with homemade lollipop bafflers.
I don't mind using org headers and gonna wrap them too.
Looking forward to see your builds, might be back with more questions..
cheers!

 

[balloonot]

Yeah man no problem. I'm hear if you have ?'s.
If you search my user name I explain the pipe size.

I got 2 lengths of 1.75" diameter @ 14" long. I used that diam. because my stock head pipes had muffler stops on them. So I needed a pipe that I could split on 3 sides and pound OVER top of those muffler stops. Then I welded it.

It worked out good actually because the stock head pipes are like 1.5" diam. So going to 1.75" really gave it a deep sound. I'll post some pics and a video.

This video was the first fire up after i installed the motor. Ok. I got a new laptop a while back. And its not letting me post the pics on a image imbed format. So if you give me your email i'll send you a snapfish folder with the mock-up of the pipes and the baffles.

I think there is like 3 or 4 videos too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbdpgLYTppA

 

[k.nurali]

thanks so much again
Im gonna look at your description with a friend of mine, he's my tutor when comes to cutting and welding and really any more serious stuff than changing oil
Im learning much but at the same time, its easier to have 2 pairs of eyes and 2 minds on a task
PLS fee free to mail me at [email protected]
thanks again, looking forward to modding pipes soon.
Will post images and let you all know.

 

[k.nurali]

now with both bike in signature

 

[balloonot]

K, No problem man.

Love the yammy man. She is clean. I sent you 1 of my folders from snapfish. The folder has a lot of pics in it that was in the very beginning of the build. Like the first couple of days after I got her. I think there's like 2 or 3 more folders with a sh1t load of pics. I have over 400 pics, give or take on this build so if you wanna see another folder let me know.

 

[Furball Zen]

FBZ drag bars are actually the correct name for the broomstick style bars.

WTF... lol how did i miss he was asking about handle bars :roll:

 

[balloonot]

^^^^....HAHAHAHA...We all have our blonde moments FBZ, no worries...lol

 

[k.nurali]

Lol
:d