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Hi!

The same exact thing happens to me... twice!

First time i was riding and then it start to jerk, like its time to switch on reserve. Moto towed to my home, i've recharged the battery and install new spark plug and it worked fine.

Now the 2nd time, about 2 weeks later, even with new new spark plug it doesnt work anymore. Battery is on charge and i suspect bad battery or bad ignition problem...

Someone have a clue about our situation?
Moto engine stopped working while we were riding it.

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hldspirit07

check your spark plug first, if you have spark on its,
i would suggest you to take a look at your gas pump.

check if its working there,
finally my problem is that.


good luck

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cr272 said:
Rode my '01 Shadow 750 ACE to work and back today - no problems as usual. Got on it later and would not start. All indicator lights, horn, etc. working fine. Starter never turns at all. Sure that starter not getting power at all. Checked all switches, kickstand, etc. with no luck. Did finally notice that the headlight is also not working. Pulled the headlight and the bulb looks fine. Checked battery and 12.5V, so good there. Not sure what to look for next. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I had the same thing happen to me today. I pulled in the driveway, then the bike died after riding it about 50 miles. I went to start it and when I pushed the button-nothing. Not a sound, but the lights, blinkers, horn all worked fine. Finally, I fooled with it enough and it started. What kind of problem does that sound like? Starter switch? How big of a job is that? ($$?) I won't do it myself. I not a tinker. :wink: Bike has 21,500 miles on it. Any advise would be appreciated. Also, can these bikes be pushed started?
 

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starter switch!

Just had terrible time on a beautiful 17 day trip. pulled into gas station, filled up and hit the start switch and nothing!!!!! had to bump start it for the rest of day. found out from Honda dealer in Reno it was the starter switch. Part cost me 84.99, overnight shipping of $35 and labor of 57.60(originally wanted to charge me$108 labor but I caught him in a miss-statement). Nothing I could do about it, but pay their expenses(on vacation). I kept the old part and it looks like a simple two screw removal process with a one plug disconnect below the handle bars. They did loose my bars as the position was different after repairs. If it happened at home, I would have saved myself the shipping and labor.
Bike is a 96 VT1100 shadow ace.
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I just bought an 01 ACE and went through the same starter problems this week. Battery was good, but headlight would not work and bike wouldn't even think about starting. It push started fine but still the headlight didn't work.

Part cost $83.83 plus a healthy amount of labor to go along with it. It's good (for me) to hear that I'm not the only person who had this problem.
 

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I've bought a few old bikes and got them running. The kill switch on the Hondas seem to be real susceptible to rusting up, or not making good contact. If the PO never used it to shut off the bike, then you use it once it might not make good contact when you flip it back on. I've had that happen to me a time or two. I always open up the case and give it a shot of WD-40 and work it a bunch of times. Seems to help.

Bought a Kawasaki ZL900 off Ebay. The owner called me and said it wouldn't start with the starter button before I went to get it. He would knock 400 off the price if I wanted it, it would push start and ran fine. I said if if would run when I got there I would take it, 500 miles one way! Got it home, opened the control and shot some WD40 in the switch and 3 years later I have not touched it.

My son learned to shut off with the kill switch, I never do so that has caught me a few times. The old Magnas will crank with the kill switch off so that does not seem evident right away.
 

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First timer. I have an 83 honda shadow 500. I just bought it today, it started up just fine at the previous owners' house. Then I brought it home in a huge downpour and got it into my garage and it won't start and sometime makes a loud popping sound... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated .. thanks
 

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duece said:
Then I brought it home in a huge downpour and got it into my garage and it won't start and sometime makes a loud popping sound... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated .. thanks
Before you panic, give it a few days to day out.

If your garage is not heated, applying some heat for a couple of days might help.

If it is heated, applying a fan will help it dry faster.

P.S. Be sure the battery is fully charged. It is probably down from your starting attempts.

PPS It is usually better to start your own thread instead of jumping in on one that is already going; the subject, as in this case, may not really be the same.
 

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Starter problems?

proal said:
well i can arc the solenoid and it will crank and start, so the starter good. so when i push the starter button in like in the corners and let off of the button a little it will sometimes start, so i pretty much am putting it on the starter switch. wellp ill let yall know how it turns out
In reading through this forum, I found where proal had maybe similar problems to mine. My 98 1100 Aero has been sitting for a long time, maybe 8 months. I just charged the battery, and it's testing well. But when I press the starter switch the engine doesn't crank. I remember on old cars that when the solenoid was bad, you'd get this clicking sound when trying to start, but no engine crank.

So I'm not much of a wrench. How do I test the starter? How do I arc the solenoid?
 

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So I'm not much of a wrench. How do I test the starter? How do I arc the solenoid?
[All of this is, no doubt, covered in the previous posts in this thread.]

Let's not panic and start taking the starter apart just yet.

Check the kill switch and all the safeties; clutch and side stand. Try it with the side stand UP, clutch pulled IN and tranny in Neutral.

The most common cause of what you describe is the contact on the start BUTTON itself. You can sometimes prove that by pressing and wiggling or by repeated pressing the button firmly; often it will make contact and work for a while.

When you turn the key on, does the headlight light up brightly ??
If so, the first thing to check is the switch behind the button.

If you don't have one already, a multi-meter would be very helpful. They can be had at WalMart or auto parts stores or big-box hardware for about $10.
 

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Easy Rider 2 said:
Oceanside said:
So I'm not much of a wrench. How do I test the starter? How do I arc the solenoid?
[All of this is, no doubt, covered in the previous posts in this thread.]
My apologies, I clearly should have read the posts more thoroughly. I appreciate your help.

Easy Rider 2 said:
Let's not panic and start taking the starter apart just yet.

Check the kill switch and all the safeties; clutch and side stand. Try it with the side stand UP, clutch pulled IN and tranny in Neutral.
Did that last night and this morning, side stand up, Neutral light brightly on, I always through habit pull the clutch in when starting regardless of what gear or neutrality the tranny is in.

Easy Rider 2 said:
The most common cause of what you describe is the contact on the start BUTTON itself. You can sometimes prove that by pressing and wiggling or by repeated pressing the button firmly; often it will make contact and work for a while.

When you turn the key on, does the headlight light up brightly ??
If so, the first thing to check is the switch behind the button.

If you don't have one already, a multi-meter would be very helpful. They can be had at WalMart or auto parts stores or big-box hardware for about $10.
I honestly don't remember if it continued to burn brightly. I think it turned off when I pressed the start button. It did burn brightly when I had the key on (but wasn't pressing start.) My VTX turns off the headlamp when I hit start, so my mind may be "filling in the blanks" of my memory. I'll check this stuff when I get home tonight. I'm trying to sell the Shadow, I don't have room in my budget for two bikes. (Plus the VTX is newer, and bigger, and still a HONDA!)

Again, thanks for the help, I'll check things out tonight and see what I can accomplish. I'll re-post once I have either gotten the bike to start (and determined the fix) or if I have more questions.
 

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Not looking too good

Ok, so I was right: The headlight does go off when I push the start button. I do get the noise from the Solenoid as well, but it won't crank. I hooked it up to the battery charger, and then pressed the start button, and still no crank, but louder solenoid.

Taking a look at the solenoid, I did see that there were two leads at the top, separated by a thin piece of plastic (so as to keep them from arcing, it certainly seems.) Going out on a limb, I got an insulated pair of needle nose pliers, and made contact with each lead. The headlamp dimmed, but no engine crank - nothing at all, no solenoid noise, nada.

Am I headed in the wrong direction here? It seems I can't get the starter motor to crank the engine.
 

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Oceanside said:
Am I headed in the wrong direction here? It seems I can't get the starter motor to crank the engine.
No, right direction.
Pointing to a bad starter or locked up engine.
You might want to start your own thread to pursue it further......instead of putting it all on the end of the sticky about the basics of "won't start". :wink:
 

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Thanks

Thanks for the advice in here. The bike was listed for sale, I was looking for $3K, someone has offered me $2500 "as is" (he knows that I can't get it started, and understands that it might be serious.) I think I'm going to take it, since a starter motor sells for $550, and wish him well.
 

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Starter Problems?

Okay so I have a starting problem question and need some advice. I have a 1985 Honda Shadow 700. When I go to start the bike, cranks but won't start. I can rock the bike for a moment or two while starting it and it will turn over. I can let it sit and warm up and once I shut it off and then go to start it again, I have the same thing? Is it carbs? Fuel Line?

Any thoughts? It seems to then run a little rougher than last year.
 

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chris.welch said:
Any thoughts?
Yes. Did you READ the other posts in this thread ??
AND not good to "pile on here"; see the answers in the other thread you already started !! :wink:
 

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OK, so I take the bike out two times in the begining of March, about 90 mile ride both times, NO PROBLEMS, (THIS is after being stored all winter in front of the house) We go on vacation, come back and my wife's uncle is in the hospital dying. Long story short the other day is the first chance I get to take the bike out. Put in key turn it on, NOTHING. Idiot lights are very dim but engine doesnt crank. I go out and buy a battery tender jr plug it in, (according to light (steady red)) it is charging. Say should take about 16 hours. Leave it on for 20, light still red. Disconnect, turn on key, idiot light VERY bright, but still won't crank. IS it likely JUST the battery? Please tell me it is, EVEN if it is a lie! Not very mechanical, but not COMPLETELY non mechanical. Suppose to rain for the next couple days, but I sure would love to get this running.

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1999 Honda Shadow ACE 750

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Evil Scotsman said:
Leave it on for 20, light still red. Disconnect, turn on key, idiot light VERY bright, but still won't crank. IS it likely JUST the battery?
Yes.

What happened to the dash lights when you tried to engage the starter ??? I'm guessing they went out or very dim again. If so, a new battery is the first step.

Don't go really cheap. A good AGM battery is more forgiving of a little neglect than the old wet cell ones.
 
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