i have a 1984 VT700. It is a rat bike, and one of the ignitors went bad, no spark. So, while looking for a replacement, I was wondering if there was another option out there for an ignition for my old Shadow. Any thoughts? Also, does anyone have a spare ignitor they would like to donate/sell? it is a 5 wire ignitor, and it seems one from an '85 will not work. They have 6. -----Metalguy :wink:
metalguy
Basically, unless someone like Dynatech produces something we can use, we are out of luck.
http://www.jpcycles.com/catalog/2009Metric/?entrypage=87
http://www.jpcycles.com/Search/Prod...ZZ38145&N=274366 4294966622&Ne=36365&Ntk=All&Ntt=&Ns=DefaultSort&results=10&No=
If you can figure out how to use currently produced ignition boxes, you will be the man of the hour! Do you know a electrical engineer with time to work this out?
http://www.jpcycles.com/catalog/2009Metric/?entrypage=87
http://www.jpcycles.com/Search/Prod...ZZ38145&N=274366 4294966622&Ne=36365&Ntk=All&Ntt=&Ns=DefaultSort&results=10&No=
If you can figure out how to use currently produced ignition boxes, you will be the man of the hour! Do you know a electrical engineer with time to work this out?
This is a real buggaboo. if you want to pay about 300 bucks there's a European company, Carmo Electronics, that sells "improved" aftermarket ignitors to replace part ME9-TID12-20. The real bugger here, is that on about 3-4 model years, the "left" side ignitor is also wired to the fuel pump relay to trigger/activate the fuel pump. The wiring harness uses a 'BLUE' wire that connects the left ignitor to the fuel pump relay. The other wires on the relay are a black and blue/black combination that feed the fuel pump through the blue/black wire.
Some things to try before replacing the ignitor: disconnect the fuel pump relay at its connector. It's a rectangular relay with a 3-pin connection. Then jumper the fuel pump with a jumper between the black (center) connection and the blue/black fuel pump feed on the male side of the connector. The fuel pump should activate with the switch "ON". If you crank it and the bike fires on both cylinders, your fuel pump relay is bad which, in turn, can mess up your ignition on 1 cylinder. A new fuel pump relay runs about 40 bucks, but it might be the solution to your problem.
I suspect that you could swap the coils and ignitors for a different model year, maybe a 750. But the other ignitors lack the fuel pump relay connection. You would have to either jumper the fuel pump around the old connection, or power it otherwise. The caveat here is that the original design was intended to shut down the fuel pump if the bike stopped running to interrupt the fuel flow. When you jumper around the fuel pump relay, you have a "running" fuel pump whenever the ignition is on.
Some things to try before replacing the ignitor: disconnect the fuel pump relay at its connector. It's a rectangular relay with a 3-pin connection. Then jumper the fuel pump with a jumper between the black (center) connection and the blue/black fuel pump feed on the male side of the connector. The fuel pump should activate with the switch "ON". If you crank it and the bike fires on both cylinders, your fuel pump relay is bad which, in turn, can mess up your ignition on 1 cylinder. A new fuel pump relay runs about 40 bucks, but it might be the solution to your problem.
I suspect that you could swap the coils and ignitors for a different model year, maybe a 750. But the other ignitors lack the fuel pump relay connection. You would have to either jumper the fuel pump around the old connection, or power it otherwise. The caveat here is that the original design was intended to shut down the fuel pump if the bike stopped running to interrupt the fuel flow. When you jumper around the fuel pump relay, you have a "running" fuel pump whenever the ignition is on.
This is an old thread, always good to get more info though.
The trick with the fuel pump is to possibly get a pump relay that can be triggered off an ignition coil like some of the later Shadows.
Try here for an ignitor Ignitech seems to have expanded their offerings beyond generics to include direct replacements: Pick-ups - IgniTech Přelouč
Pricing is not bad either https://www.ignitech.cz/zdroj/en/ceniky/USD/price list accessories usd.pdf and then you have shipping of course.
I've found them good people to deal with, although use email to communicate as the phone may not be answered by someone who can speak English.
I used one of their programmable TCIP4 ICM boxes to help unlock the fun of my engine. (-:
The trick with the fuel pump is to possibly get a pump relay that can be triggered off an ignition coil like some of the later Shadows.
Try here for an ignitor Ignitech seems to have expanded their offerings beyond generics to include direct replacements: Pick-ups - IgniTech Přelouč
Pricing is not bad either https://www.ignitech.cz/zdroj/en/ceniky/USD/price list accessories usd.pdf and then you have shipping of course.
I've found them good people to deal with, although use email to communicate as the phone may not be answered by someone who can speak English.
I used one of their programmable TCIP4 ICM boxes to help unlock the fun of my engine. (-:
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