A) Read somewhere chains with O rings require special lube.

B) Here is what I used once and plan on using again today. Is it good enough?

A) Wrong. Plain 90W or most any chain lube is OK.

B) Yes.

Where did you read that ??

The purpose of chain lube is for the sprockets and rollers on the chain.
It is NOT for the pins and O-ring seals......as they take care of themselves with the grease INSIDE the seals.

 

I think the op is referring to what to use when cleaning the chain....certain solvents can degrade the o rings.

However.....there are O ring specific lubes on the market for several reasons. One is to preserve the o ring (additives in the lube), another is the lube does not and should not penetrate the o ring, third is the o ring specific lube can be more sticky / tacky and more resistant to being thrown off at speed.

Different type of chain......different type of lube.

 

Not sure where i read that, it has to be somewhere here in this forum since this is my sole source of information on this topic. Thanks for your answers.

 

I found that reference and it was not this forum.

Motorcyclist: Why do O-ring and non-O-ring chains need different lubes?
P.J. Harvey: Mostly because none of the commercial lubricants available on the market should penetrate the O-ring. If you eliminate the need to develop [a lubricant that provides]--I call it a cushion--between the pin, bushing and roller of each link, you can make the chain lube a little different. For example, make it more tacky and more adhesive [for O-ring chains]. And that's the main reason we came out with the different chain lubes.

Read more: How to Lube Your Motorcycle Chain
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But it WAS a self-serving statement made by a chain lube manufacturer.

There are two things that you can always believe:

Anything you see on the Internet
AND
Any marketing claim made by a big company.

:mrgreen:

You do have to be a little careful about what you use to CLEAN an O-ring chain though......as some harsh solvents can do bad things to the rings.
I solve the problem easily though; I never clean mine. :shock:

 

Stay away from using oil as a chain lube on your o-ring chain..... in fact, stay away from any lube other than BelRay "SuperClean."

I've been using it for nearly 20-years, and it is by "an extreme long shot" the best chain lube on the market!

Super Clean Chain Lube | Bel-Ray Company, Inc

Phil

 

Stay away from using oil as a chain lube on your o-ring chain.....

Funny, that's not what Honda says.
And it has worked fine for me for a LOT of years.

Can't comment on the stuff you recommended; it might be "better".
Almost anything is less messy......even if you are real careful not to put on too much oil. :wink:

 

I make the wife spray it as I walk it around with my PJ-1 Lube

 

Thats a lot of suggestions. I dont want to throw away the lube i had, so i was asking to see if that will do any harm to my O-Rings. This being the second time i lubed the chain, i used a chain brush to clean dirt off, wiped the chain clean with a cloth and spayed the lube pictured in my original post. Didnt use any cleaning agent. I thought about using some WD40 which i use on by bicycle chain, but decided against it. Thanks.

 

The reason they want you to warm the chain is so it gets wicked into the chain rollers when it cools.Directions are there for the best results

 

If I followed directions to the "T", I'd be using 90w gear oil........

Phil

 

The can of Chain Lube wont tell you to use Oil

 

lol!
I was talking about the motorcycle owners manual, not the instructions on the can of chain lube. The Honda owners manual says to use 90w gear oil; I'm not following "Those instructions" DUH!

Phil

 

I dont have any of my owners manuals, but my factory service manuals state, "Honda chain lube or equivalent".
I do happen to have a can of the Honda stuff and dont use it much, but sounds like it may be the same stuff as the Bel ray Phil is using, wouldnt doubt if it's made by Bel ray for Honda.
Most of the time I use chain wax, it will stay on the chain nicely.

 

It was quite a while ago when I looked into the Honda Chain lube. Back then, Honda had two different chain lubes, one came in a red can, and the other in blue can. I think I tried the stuff in the red can, and although when applied it looked white like the BelRay lube, it didn't perform nearly as well. Fling was a big problem with the Honda lube. I only used it a few times and tossed it because it was so messy.

I never tried chain wax but I can say that with the BelRay lube, there is no flinging at all........... That's what I like about it; that and the fact that it holds up a long time, even while riding in the rain.
Phil

 

Yup, the Honda lube seems a bit thin, I'm all for the Honda chemicals, but had to pass on this one. use it for the dirt bikes now.
the chain wax is nice and thick as well, it will fling a little on the initial ride but its minimal, and it too holds up for a while. they say you can use it for cables too, but I pass on that one as well.

 

Brightred, at the front of the bike squat down and you can see our brake pads real well. I've still got my stock pads on mine at almost 59,000(but not quite)miles. Maybe the is a playing card on the spokes(I remember doing this as a kid). I have a hell of a time chasing down noises on the bike due to the hearing loss, took me months to figure out one rattle was simply the rear brake rod was rattling and the brake adjustment took care of that one.

Earlier I mentioned the Dupont Chain lube, which I have used, but I looked on the shelf, and it's a can of Bel Rey that a neighbor gave me. Been using it since I emptied the Dupont can.

 

I've still got my stock pads on mine at almost 59,000(but not quite)miles.

Well old friend......you REALLY need to start using the front brake more.....really. :wink:

I'll have a look and see. I usually change mine along with the front tire.....with is about every 15K miles or so it seems.

 

Brightred, I agree with scrapdog and the EBC pads. I run EBC pads and I hear that noise all of the time. I've actually gotten used to it now. I tried putting a bevel on the leading edge of the pads once, it quieted it down some but that was about it. Now I know when my pads are close to the end of their life, I don't hear the noise anymore. Without that cut out in the center, it doesn't make noise.

 

you get the Maghna runnin?

 

every 400 miles and when chain is hot, spray wd40 on a rag to and wipe dirt off the chain. then spray on maxima synthetic chain guard and let it set over night and your chain and sprocket will last a long time. HTH

 

EVERY 400 MILES ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
If I had to touch my chain every 400 miles, I'd quit riding.

My 750ACE is a 1998 model; the current chain and rear sprocket have about 20,000 miles on them (original front sprocket.) My chain is lucky if it gets cleaned every couple-thousand-miles, but it does get its quick coat of BelRay SuperClean about every thousand-miles or so.

I'm not saying it's bad to service your chain every 400, but it's not going to make it last any longer. The whole concept behind the o-ring chain is that the links are permanently sealed (by the o-rings) and don't really require lubrication. Basically, what you're doing is keeping the exterior of the chain (and sprockets) free of dirt and rust.

Phil

 

Hi
Have a Honda Shadow RS 2010 with chain drive and was wondering if I should use teflon chain saver on it?