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The idea is good for old tires that will be replaced for next season and I will be doing it on one of my bikes..but I think I will just slap it on with a brush, that way if it peels or flakes or gets too dirty I can just touch it up quickly with a brush and leave the new tires black until they have some wear on them..

John.
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
Any updates?
The right side is still 100% perfect. The brake side is aweful. I'm going to fix that on Saturday hopefully and will post more pics.

The take aways are:

1) This absolutely works in terms of look and pliability and resiliance.
2) As in all painting, prep is everything
3) Brake dust requires really good prep / grease removal treatment.

K
 
was it in full shade the entire time (24 hours) it was drying or did one side get sun dried at all?....
 
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OK.. so here I am. I am totally convinced that the issues I have with the brake side are to do with brake dust buildup.

I just pulled the wheel and here is the NON brake side after a month which conclusively proves that Krylon absolutely CAN be used as a ghetto whitewall product. The only comment is that this has definitely faded to more of a cream color, but I will follow up with whether traditional whitewall cleaning products can deal with that.

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Here is the BRAKE side

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FUGLY!!!!!

I went at it with my degreaser product, and turns out it rips through the paint, and completely removes it, so I spent about 30 minutes doing that getting ALL the paint off. Degreaser, soap and water. Degreaser, soap and water.

After that, I went at it with wire wool because it had a sheen to it. Near the end, here's a picture showing a little bit of left over sheen.

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So after much work I had a really nice uniform flat "squeaky" clean surface. I masked and painted.

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It's night now, but here's how it looks - as before, fairly spectacular

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Will mount tomorrow and I have a big ride on Sunday so will post how it holds up. First time around the issues on the brake side were fairly immediately apparent. Hope it works out because the whitewall I just bought and put on the rear is all kinds of lame ass skinny compared to this, and if this works out I'll take the rear off and use the same treatment to take the puny 1.5 inch of whitewall out another inch towards the tread.

K
 
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So far so good. Last time the break side started deteriorating within an hour of the first ride, after 50 miles today it's still perfect.

Only issue with this paint is it doesn't stay WHITE white.. it goes a little bit cream. Not sure if it would clean up. Any suggestions?

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K
 
I think that the cream color will give it a cool vintage look. I would say that it is probable from the oils in the rubber that are bleeding through the paint. Tires are a petroleum product.

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Seeing it in person today on our ride, I can say 100% this "mod" looks AWESOME! I didn't even know it was painted until you told me! lol

Nice job!


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Seeing it in person today on our ride, I can say 100% this "mod" looks AWESOME! I didn't even know it was painted until you told me! lol

Nice job!


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Thanks buddy, and I can confirm that the respray on the brake side is holding up fine. So I'm now over 500 miles on one side that is pretty much flawless, and having prepped the tire PROPERLY this time on the brake side, I think it's good to go.

K
 
Just saw this post. First to answer the comment regarding PlastiDip. It doesn't work. It turns brown ... and I mean brown quickly, and it peels off way to easy to be on a tire. Here's my link, http://www.hondashadow.net/forum/72-technical-discussion/138986-shocker-plasti-dip-vs-elastometric-paint.html#post1427406.

Now as for the Krylon, it may work, but it won't last due to the lack of flexibility. Eventually it will just flake, like that shown in your picture. The browning, yellowing, or graying of any paint product is directly related to the tire's composition. I had different results on the Dunlops as compared to the Bridgestones.

And yes, preparation is EVERYTHING.

More information on the Elastomeric: http://www.hondashadow.net/forum/72-technical-discussion/110790-my-road-rod-3.html#post1183111

I've had no peeling issues with the Elastomeric, only yellowing on the Dunlops and graying on the Bridgestones. Pretty happy with it!
 
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Just saw this post. First to answer the comment regarding PlastiDip. It doesn't work. It turns brown ... and I mean brown quickly, and it peels off way to easy to be on a tire. Here's my link, http://www.hondashadow.net/forum/72-technical-discussion/138986-shocker-plasti-dip-vs-elastometric-paint.html#post1427406.

Now as for the Krylon, it may work, but it won't last due to the lack of flexibility. Eventually it will just flake, like that shown in your picture. The browning, yellowing, or graying of any paint product is directly related to the tire's composition. I had different results on the Dunlops as compared to the Bridgestones.

And yes, preparation is EVERYTHING.

More information on the Elastomeric: http://www.hondashadow.net/forum/72-technical-discussion/110790-my-road-rod-3.html#post1183111

I've had no peeling issues with the Elastomeric, only yellowing on the Dunlops and graying on the Bridgestones. Pretty happy with it!
Nice to see a post by someone who has also actually DONE something rather than throwing out something like, "I bet a mixture of toothpaste and cottage cheese would work" ;)

What makes you confident that it will crack? I've used the Krylon fusion on many applications that need flexibility and it's part of the attributes of the paint. For clarity, the shot of the tire that looks like crap was due to bad prep (brake dust buildup). It went bad within a few miles, but the other side that now has some time and miles on it is good as the day it was done apart from a bit of a cream tinge.

I don't see any evidence that this isn't as good a long term solution as Elastomeric but I think the added value of the Krylon is a spray finish rather than brush.

K
 
I'm only as confident as my past experience takes me. Paint hasn't held up well on a few cars when I was younger. Your experience may differ. Just be sure to keep updating your findings! :)

It should be noted too that none of these methods are a permanent solution. Retouching and maybe redoing can and are a possibility.

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Quick follow up. The repainted brake side is immaculate after a week with about 250 miles including extreme heat and rain. Original side is now as good as it was a month ago when I painted it with some slight color change to a slight cream color.

Setting a 3 month reminder to post pics and update again, but based on results I think that Krylon Fusion is a viable (and pretty awesome) whitewall option as long as prep is really thorough especially on the brake side.

K
 
Quick follow up. The repainted brake side is immaculate after a week with about 250 miles including extreme heat and rain. Original side is now as good as it was a month ago when I painted it with some slight color change to a slight cream color.

Setting a 3 month reminder to post pics and update again, but based on results I think that Krylon Fusion is a viable (and pretty awesome) whitewall option as long as prep is really thorough especially on the brake side.

K
Prep work is the killer of almost any paint job. Definitely. I made the mistake of spraying silicone spray out side the front of my garage with the door open onto a part for something elses when I had a sheet of metal prepped for paint. Painted that evening and lo and behold fish-eyes everywhere (it was a replacement panel, a rivet-on for a clothes washer, dont ask its a long story but his wife didnt notice for 6 months). took me a couple hours to figure that's what it must have been. because that piece wasn't for me I had, soap washed, degrease, final scuff sanding compounded, soap washed again, and degrease again but the paint wasn't coming to me for a few hours. Little did I know silicone over spray can apparently travel about 15 feet on a breeze and deposit itself ALL over something you have prepped....

moral of the story finish your prep, then paint IMMEDIATELY. if its more than an hour prep again.
 
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8 month follow up (5 months riding and 3 months winter storage).

So after 8 months this still looks acceptable. It's not perfect, some hairline cracks appearing but as you can see from the photo, the impact is still excellent.

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I expect I'll get another season out of this tire and the paint will hold up fine for that, then I'll but a whitewall.

In conclusion, with good prep, Krylon is a good ghetto whitewall option, and as it's a spray and not brush, the finish is really pretty good.

K
 
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