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should bike keep moving in 1st with no throttle on

11K views 10 replies 9 participants last post by  Easy Rider 2  
#1 ·
Newbie question:

If you slowly let out clutch while in 1st gear should your bike move and keep moving even when you don't give it gas? or should it stall immediatley

My 750 stalls but my friends 500 does not is why I am asking.
 
#2 ·
if you're on a level surface or downhill or something if you let the clutch out very slowly it will keep moving, if you're on an incline it will surely stall but it really depends on how your idle throttle is adjusted
 
#5 ·
i can start mine from idle, but have to finesse the clutch a little. uphill it doesnt work, have to hold front brake, twist throttle w/ remaining fingers, then let clutch out till it starts to catch, then release brake :D . actually has become pretty subconscious.

i rarely give it throttle in low-speed maneuvers, just manage the friction zone while the engine is at idle.
 
#6 ·
daveyiv said:
if you're on a level surface or downhill or something if you let the clutch out very slowly it will keep moving, if you're on an incline it will surely stall but it really depends on how your idle throttle is adjusted
Yup... Same here. My 750 would tend to stall more when the idle was set too low. My guess is your idle is a bit low. It's not a Harley after all. Once I raised up my idle everything worked better. The idle slowly dropped as the bike broke in. Didn't notice cause it was slow and over time but... Once I readjusted that up, fixed just about everything.
 
#7 ·
thanks all for replys

guess I will have to go home tonite and find out for sure if my bike will stall in 1st when clucth let out slowly. As a newbie rider I was sure it was stalling when testing in my laneway.
 
#8 ·
Rideandlive said:
If you slowly let out clutch while in 1st gear should your bike move and keep moving even when you don't give it gas? or should it stall immediatley

My 750 stalls but my friends 500 does not is why I am asking.
Maybe I should read the other replies first.........naw, that would make too much sense.......... :roll:

Two things: Raise your idle speed
AND
Practice, practice.......as you let out the clutch, you need to twist the throttle just slightly when you feel the friction point start.
It takes a while to get it right.

Once you think you have that down, try to start out in 2nd. If you can do that without stalling, then you've pretty much nailed it.......and sometime in your riding career you WILL find yourself starting out in 2nd by mistake.

P.S. Your friends 500 is likely a bit lighter than your bike too.
 
#9 ·
Not only idle speed but it also depends on the final gear ratio. One bike may be gear lower (numerically higher) then the other.

Example on two chain driven bikes same model. One with a 15 tooth front sprocket, and one with a 17 tooth sprocket. The 17 tooth sprocket will lug the motor a little bit more because it takes more engine power to get it moving and the motor will most likely stall where-as the 15 tooth sprocket will have more torque at low rpms which means the bike will be producing less rpms before it starts to roll.

That is the most likely reason why in a comparison to different bike. your 750 probably is geared different then his 500.
 
#10 ·
I set my idle to keep the bike moving... It allows me to do full lock turns in parking lots and driveways on level ground without feathering the clutch. Just my preference. Most of the time my bike isn't idling and I am not concerned about sounding like a Harley.